F-1 2008 NO Traction Control!
03-30-2007, 08:14 PM
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Interesting...
I wonder if they'll hide it like the NASCAR guys, which have spec ignition boxes, but still manage to get traction control 
Traction control was originally banned at the end of the 1993 season but returned in ‘01 as the FIA admitted that policing the device’s use was nearly impossible. That will no longer be the case beginning next year, since a standardized ECU (the engines’ Electronic Control Unit) will be mandatory to all teams.
03-30-2007, 08:20 PM
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with their budgets and knowledge if it can be done and they want to cheat I guess so. Then again may be they will collect data form them and if the never spin the wheels they will know something is fishy.
03-30-2007, 08:33 PM
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They should ban it, but they allowed it because they could not enforce it. I was speaking with a T/C maker that has been used in NASCAR and Trans/Am etc. He was saying that in T/A one of the most outspoken persons that was complaining about others having it was one of his first customers! The first units went into an MSD ignition box, then the tach, and they now have a version that is wireless and is the size of a BIC lighter! It has become so hard to detect that the only real way to detect its' use is to use a microphone and a spectrum analyzer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_analyzer
These used to be very expensive but for this relatively low frequency application they are very common these days. They are made by HP (now Agilent) or Tektronix and can be used to see if the exhaust pulses are evenly increasing or are being chopped by some form of T/C. Now you can get one on Ebay for a couple of grand so it would be no big deal for SCCA much less F1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_analyzer
These used to be very expensive but for this relatively low frequency application they are very common these days. They are made by HP (now Agilent) or Tektronix and can be used to see if the exhaust pulses are evenly increasing or are being chopped by some form of T/C. Now you can get one on Ebay for a couple of grand so it would be no big deal for SCCA much less F1.
03-30-2007, 09:39 PM
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They can simply match their engine curves for rpm/gear/track/conditions. Those cars can be programmed to accelerate and brake without even having a driver in the car. OR they could, depending on how the new PCM rules come into play.
I personally think F1 should be the pinnacle of technology, and other than displacement and physical sizing limits, they should be able to do what they want. Until their aren't 10 teams left that can't raise the money, who cares what it costs?
I personally think F1 should be the pinnacle of technology, and other than displacement and physical sizing limits, they should be able to do what they want. Until their aren't 10 teams left that can't raise the money, who cares what it costs?
03-31-2007, 05:30 AM
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^^^Funny pic! 
But all too true.
Hell yeah! TC and AH have been off since the first time I fired GT4 up. 
Personally, I don't like TC or even ABS in any pro racing series. It even bothers me in WC, especially when it comes into play like it did in the Sebring conditions. Didn't affect the winner--Curran was dominant--but I'd rather see the display of driving skill with no computer assistance.
But all too true. Personally, I don't like TC or even ABS in any pro racing series. It even bothers me in WC, especially when it comes into play like it did in the Sebring conditions. Didn't affect the winner--Curran was dominant--but I'd rather see the display of driving skill with no computer assistance.
03-31-2007, 09:27 PM
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I hope they make the ban stick. I guess powerplant/diff mapping by the FIA will help enforcement.
The link says they are going to further narrow the width of the cars. At this rate they'll be bikes soon.
The link says they are going to further narrow the width of the cars. At this rate they'll be bikes soon.
