Autocrossing & Roadracing Suspension Setup for Track Corvettes, Camber/Caster Adjustments, R-Compound Tires, Race Slicks, Tips on Driving Technique, Events, Results
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Give me ventilated hood ideas please!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-03-2007, 10:43 AM
  #1  
2000BSME
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
2000BSME's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2005
Posts: 9,996
Received 17 Likes on 14 Posts

Default Give me ventilated hood ideas please!

I considering ventilating my stock hood in the area right behind the radiator for cooler running track days. Please list some pros/cons that I may not have considered, and some pictures/ideas would be great. I think I'd probably just prefer to chop up my stock hood, since I really don't have the room to store it.

tia.

P.S. if you know of inserts that I can use to accomplish this, please tell!
Old 05-03-2007, 10:59 AM
  #2  
MungoZ06
Burning Brakes
 
MungoZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2004
Location: MD
Posts: 767
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
St. Jude Donor '10-'11
Default

Here ya go ...
http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101919
Old 05-03-2007, 11:07 AM
  #3  
2000BSME
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
2000BSME's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2005
Posts: 9,996
Received 17 Likes on 14 Posts

Default

very nice, more elaborate than I had in mind, but it fits the bill.
thanks
Old 05-03-2007, 12:50 PM
  #4  
davidfarmer
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
davidfarmer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: CONCORD NC
Posts: 12,008
Received 712 Likes on 493 Posts

Default

In my ST2 car, I'm going to use some ventshade louvers from JCWhitney. I don't have the part numbers handy, but they make a large square one, and I'm going to use 2. Eventually, I may also vent the hood above the front tires with smaller louvers.

You want to be just behind the top of the radiator. Obviously, the nose and front of the hood are high pressure, as is the cowl area. I have some C5R CFD photos somewhere that I'm trying to dig up.

**found them
Old 05-03-2007, 12:59 PM
  #5  
davidfarmer
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
davidfarmer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: CONCORD NC
Posts: 12,008
Received 712 Likes on 493 Posts

Default

ZX492230U here is the part number I plan on using. I think they are sealed, but am pretty sure they can be opened up and just riveted onto your OEM hood. Not necessarily pretty, but it will help.

Ideally, you would also want a splitter with a front-opening nose, as well as a sealed undertray. You want as much air going in/over the car and out the top, not under or in, then leak out under.

Old 05-03-2007, 01:13 PM
  #6  
AU N EGL
Team Owner
 
AU N EGL's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: Raleigh / Rolesville NC
Posts: 43,084
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts

Default

Cool David. I was looking at a bunch of differnt vent. Those seam to be the largest that i have seen
Old 05-03-2007, 01:15 PM
  #7  
davidfarmer
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
davidfarmer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: CONCORD NC
Posts: 12,008
Received 712 Likes on 493 Posts

Default

I just ordered a set....this post reminded me to get to work!

They also make some small, narrow one, that would work over the fender wells, but that is for another day (or year)....
Old 05-03-2007, 01:40 PM
  #8  
robvuk
Le Mans Master
 
robvuk's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 5,727
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by davidfarmer
I just ordered a set....this post reminded me to get to work!

They also make some small, narrow one, that would work over the fender wells, but that is for another day (or year)....
Are you out of retirement?
Old 05-03-2007, 01:58 PM
  #9  
vms4evr
Melting Slicks
 
vms4evr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Cary NC
Posts: 2,729
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

One thing I noticed in the write up of that awesome DIY job.

Remove the rubber louver in the side vents. I assume you would have to make holes in the inner fenders to get air out of the wheel wells and engine bay. Would this help with heat extraction? It seems reasonable that it should help lower the pressure in the wheel well area since it is a higher pressure zone. This should enhance brake cooling some measurable amount?

That seems like a freebie improvement with a little nit of labor.
Old 05-03-2007, 02:20 PM
  #10  
MattB
Drifting
Support Corvetteforum!
 
MattB's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: Littleton Colorado
Posts: 1,590
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by MungoZ06
Hey, thats wild Bill's write up he runs with NASA Rocky Mountain. His hood looks great in person, did a really good job on it
Old 05-03-2007, 03:39 PM
  #11  
davidfarmer
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
davidfarmer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: CONCORD NC
Posts: 12,008
Received 712 Likes on 493 Posts

Default

You can buy a hood already vented, in carbon, that will bolt right on. Of course, it will cost money, instead of the dozens of hours of time he put in.

ANY air you divert from going down or sideways, to going UP will help create downforce (or decrease lift). Cutting the inner fender, and extracting air upwards will do this. It will not help cooling the engine bay etc.

However the central louvers will help extract hot air and actually allow MORE air to go through the radiator, as well as creating downforce by redirecting cooling air that usually spills out the bottom/sides of your car.

According to the WC C6R Wind Tunnel sheet, shutting off the center louvers on the hood (this would be the hood on LG's car) decreases front downforce by over 10% with no change in drag.

Without a splitter, it is pretty much impossible to create downforce on a C5, but you can reduce lift and improve cooling.

BTW, I saw a Porsche 944 at a recent NASA event with louvers. I was curious, so I walked up close. Seriously, the guy had gotten HVAC ducts from a hardware store and put them in his hood. Half of the vents were in one direction, half in the other. In other words, half of the vent was a "louver", and half of it was a "scoop". I took a photo with my phone, but I can't find it.
Old 05-03-2007, 10:00 PM
  #12  
fatbillybob
Melting Slicks
 
fatbillybob's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,267
Received 205 Likes on 161 Posts

Default

There were a bunch of Arizona vette guys at the last WSIR tribute to le mans with the porshe club about 3 weeks ago. They had really nice cutouts. Maybe some one can find those guys.
Old 05-04-2007, 12:06 AM
  #13  
snitz
Burning Brakes
Support Corvetteforum!
 
snitz's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2006
Location: Arlington Heights Illinois
Posts: 829
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

http://www.acproducts.us/corvetteracebod.htm

Scroll down to "air extractor hoods". They have normal and high rise models in fiberglass or carbon.
Old 05-04-2007, 12:29 AM
  #14  
John Shiels
Team Owner
 
John Shiels's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 1999
Location: Buy USA products! Check the label! Employ Americans
Posts: 50,808
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by vms4evr
One thing I noticed in the write up of that awesome DIY job.

Remove the rubber louver in the side vents. I assume you would have to make holes in the inner fenders to get air out of the wheel wells and engine bay. Would this help with heat extraction? It seems reasonable that it should help lower the pressure in the wheel well area since it is a higher pressure zone. This should enhance brake cooling some measurable amount?

That seems like a freebie improvement with a little nit of labor.
I have pictures if you want? When you reduce lift you have created downforce. I have two louvers I bought before I found the ACP hood that I was going to install in the hood.
Old 05-04-2007, 08:50 AM
  #15  
2000BSME
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
2000BSME's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2005
Posts: 9,996
Received 17 Likes on 14 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by snitz
http://www.acproducts.us/corvetteracebod.htm

Scroll down to "air extractor hoods". They have normal and high rise models in fiberglass or carbon.
very nice.
Old 05-04-2007, 09:02 AM
  #16  
davidfarmer
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
davidfarmer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: CONCORD NC
Posts: 12,008
Received 712 Likes on 493 Posts

Default

Kerry makes very nice hoods (ACP/corvetteracebodies.com), especially in carbon, but they are pricey.

I want to buy a nose from him over the winter, but I'm going to go the cheap route on my hood.

I'll post some photos of the damage when my louvers come in.
Old 05-04-2007, 10:31 AM
  #17  
96CollectorSport
Melting Slicks
 
96CollectorSport's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: If you don't weigh in you don't wrestle Road America
Posts: 3,031
Likes: 0
Received 73 Likes on 54 Posts

Default

I've always liked the Motor City Mold hood. Especially with the carbon fiber insert.

http://www.vetteessentials.com/hood/hood.htm

Get notified of new replies

To Give me ventilated hood ideas please!

Old 05-04-2007, 10:48 AM
  #18  
MrEracer
Burning Brakes
 
MrEracer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2001
Location: Aguila AZ
Posts: 1,173
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

To see the hood vents used by the Arizona Vettes follow this path:
<corvetteracers.org> go to 'April at Willow Springs', click on photo #7.
This is David Hurley's hood. Mine is the same (Black Mamba #60). I'm doing Ralph Mastersons hood today (Pewter FRC #35)...
Shirl Dickey
Old 05-04-2007, 10:53 AM
  #19  
davidfarmer
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
davidfarmer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: CONCORD NC
Posts: 12,008
Received 712 Likes on 493 Posts

Default



$800 on e b a y
Old 05-04-2007, 11:03 AM
  #20  
RAFTRACER
Melting Slicks
 
RAFTRACER's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2004
Location: cincinnati ohio
Posts: 2,502
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by davidfarmer


$800 on e b a y
Id like to see a Corvette hood like that.....I 've this picture too many times on E-bay....the hood pictured looks like it is for a Mustang. it also has a cute little duct in the nose. Anyone have a picture of this hood on a Corvette ????

I've already bought Kerry's stuff, I should have it soon.


Quick Reply: Give me ventilated hood ideas please!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:41 PM.