sperkins

Like this one? (specifically Road Atlanta)

AU N EGL

In most cases NO, they are not.

Camera mounts do need to be hard mounted, bolted in place.

Suction mounts do tend to come loose and not to mention vibrate like crazy at higher speeds.

CHJ In Virginia

Every group that I have ever run with will not allow the suction cup mounts inside of the car. TrackDaze allows them on the outside of the car, but they must be firmly tied or wired to something solid incase they come loose from vibration. Don't want a camera bouncing on the track and getting hit at speed.

Aardwolf

I run this one from chasecam.com and have had no problems:

http://chasecam.com/store/customer/p...cat=248&page=1



It has never had any issue of coming loose or vibrating, it takes good video and I have been happy with it.

YMMV!

sperkins

Are you using an external Bullet cam with that or are you using it the way I have mine picture above?

Aardwolf

My camera has a tripod thread in the bottom so I just screw the camera onto the mount, my camera is pretty small though.



I have mine mounted to the roof not stuck on the windshield. It is right in the middle and would take an act of god to end up flying out on the track.

fcarga

I'd worry more about it flying around the car and hitting you or a passenger!

Aardwolf

With a helmet on?

sperkins

There's no way that thing is coming off the window. I stuck it to my dining room table and picked it up off the floor until I couldn't hold it any longer.

heavychevy

That would make me trust it too.

I'm gonna try and get a suction cup cam in there myself.

AU N EGL

A dinning room table and a car taking consistent corners at close to if not over 1 G is a bit different. However, that is a moot point, as most car clubs do not allow suction cup mounts for cameras. We don't for the Corvette event.

Here is an I/O Port camera mount on a harness bar

2000BSME

they do come off windows, on a very hot day the heat from the sun warms up the airspace that is supposed to be "vacuum" and before you know it, they fall off.

Mine has an indicator, to show when vacuum is lost, but I never run the suction mount on HPDE's. I always use my bolt down mount.

fcarga

I guess we'd all be safe and secure if our wheels were held on by suction cups ;-).. Remember that the things that can and will happen are the things you hadn't planned for.

FasterIsBetter

Most of the events I've been at in the Northeast, at Watkins Glen, Lime Rock, Pocono, prohibit suction cup mounted anything (including EZPass) on the windshield, let alone a camera. Cameras must be hard-mounted to a harness bar or roll cage. I've even seen them ban those mounts that attach to the headrest bars.

The issue isn't what happens while driving, though a driver grabbing to save his falling camera at 100+ mph would not be a good thing. It's the potential for an airborne missle in the event of a crash that could hit the driver or passenger/instructor.

AU N EGL

You also want your camera bolted as close to the hard point of contact as possible.

That arm on the suction cup mount above will vibrate like crazy and give anyone sea sickness watching the video.

Dont believe me? go take some video while doing hard corners some place. then watch the video

Aardwolf

Here is a vid that I made with mine:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...08422587506673

It's really pretty good. There is a point that I get onto the rumble stacks and that is fine as well.

Joy of 6

[QUOTE=AU N EGL;1562906475] We don't for the Corvette event.



Here is what I use for a camera mount. It is much more adaptive to changing camera angles (front, back, sideways, etc.) and is rock solid.
and as Tom says, we don't allow anyting but a bolt on mount (Corvette, Audi, Porsche, BMW and Lotus clubs)


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

Two B's

Video quality is not the point, that limits the use of suction cup mounts.
In a five "g" crash that four pound camera now weighs 20 lbs and its flying around at what ever your car speed was at the time of the crash.
Getting hit by a three or four pound object at sixty mph will break bones.

Aardwolf

Has there been a camera that weighs four pounds made in ten years? Dang that is a lot! Mine weighs 5.5 oz. To get hit by the one above camera attached to the wind shield you would have to crash straight backwards, IF the cups let go they would have substantially slowed the camera. Per the website the cups can hold 75 pounds, so 20 is very well within the safety margin.

http://www.chasecam.com/mounts/suction.htm

fcarga

Reading this thread reinforces the old adages of leading a horse to water and of the value of free advice.