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Old 03-26-2009, 02:28 PM
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those germans always trying to re-invent the wheel, er brake.
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Man, its cars like these that make me glad Im going to school to be en engineer. When I engineer something I think how simple can I make this and still be just as effective, not I wonder how many people will curse this trying to work on it.
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My 84 Audi had the option of the UFO brake system. They raced them and it worked. But the normal design ended up beinig the right thing to do.

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wow that doesnt look like fun lol
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Originally Posted by Kubs
Man, its cars like these that make me glad Im going to school to be en engineer. When I engineer something I think how simple can I make this and still be just as effective, not I wonder how many people will curse this trying to work on it.

I was cursing the vette engineers this last weekend...
But i always curse the engineers.. I am one and I am always getting cursed at..

Now lets play: Why did they do that? Is there a functional reason? Cost? Performance? Manufacturablity?
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I'm assuming this lets you run larger rotors inside a given wheel, since the caliper no longer needs to mount over top of it. Also, brakes would be less sensitive to the offsets of wheels, since you wouldn't have problems with the caliper hitting the spokes of the wheel where they connect to the barrel. Interesting concept.
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They were big into the rally racing back then. One major problem that I have had playing in the dirt is rocks getting trapped in the brakes and causing issues. Maybe they were trying something different to help with this.

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Originally Posted by Kubs
Man, its cars like these that make me glad Im going to school to be en engineer. When I engineer something I think how simple can I make this and still be just as effective, not I wonder how many people will curse this trying to work on it.
Obviously you are not German...

An elephant is nothing more than a mouse designed by a German engineer.

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Kers ?
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Evidently it's making a comeback

It's a front brake on a Buell motorcycle.

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Originally Posted by gonzalezfj
Obviously you are not German...

An elephant is nothing more than a mouse designed by a German engineer.

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Originally Posted by RusherRacing
I was cursing the vette engineers this last weekend...
But i always curse the engineers.. I am one and I am always getting cursed at..

Now lets play: Why did they do that? Is there a functional reason? Cost? Performance? Manufacturablity?
They probably did it, like Randy said, to help keep objects out of the brakes. It would allow a bigger rotor inside a wheel as mentioned, but I cannot imagine having a lower cost with the extra material to hold it to the hub. There are just as many brackets and bolts to the remove to do a brake job so ease of service cant be the reason. I think the main thing is they just wanted to be different. Like why do German cars use wheel bolts instead of studs?? That is not practical at all, trying to line up the holes while holding the wheel on the hub. I drilled out the hubs on my BMW 330i and put stud from the Corvette in. Much easier to work on now.
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Originally Posted by BrianCunningham
Evidently it's making a comeback

It's a front brake on a Buell motorcycle.
That makes sense on a motorcycle. There arent many places to mount a caliper and this design utilizes the forks to take the load of the caliper, while still having a large enough rotor.

Edit: I noticed too there only appears to be one rotor instead of two on that bike. Im pretty sure older designs had two smaller rotors. That would help with cost and service of the bike.

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