Aero or Big Brake Kit?
03-06-2011, 09:07 PM
#1
Drifting
Thread Starter
Aero or Big Brake Kit?
For those of you that have both, which would you do first? Takes too many funds to do both at once. 
If I do aero is it going to require stiffer springs I am on LG GT2 coil overs and LG G1 sway bars. Thanks in advance!
(Working toward ST2)
If I do aero is it going to require stiffer springs I am on LG GT2 coil overs and LG G1 sway bars. Thanks in advance!
(Working toward ST2)
03-07-2011, 06:07 AM
#7
Team Owner
First decide your budget and what type of aero vs. what type of brakes. I would tend to say brakes. You can run stock calipers and race pads with aero but stock brakes get expensive to maintain with pads.
Last edited by John Shiels; 03-07-2011 at 06:28 AM.
03-07-2011, 12:05 PM
#10
Drifting
Thread Starter
Looks like brakes it is for sure! 
I have looked at Stop Tech and Garys from Hardbar-I have a set of CCW'S, and C5ZO6 wheels all of them are 18'S on all corners.
Input on recommended BBK'S? And also that will fit without clearance issues?
I already have cooling ducts and have been running the Hawk 70'S on the front and 60'S on the rear with otherwise stock caliper's other than a piston upgrade....
Thanks to all for the help
I have looked at Stop Tech and Garys from Hardbar-I have a set of CCW'S, and C5ZO6 wheels all of them are 18'S on all corners.
Input on recommended BBK'S? And also that will fit without clearance issues?
I already have cooling ducts and have been running the Hawk 70'S on the front and 60'S on the rear with otherwise stock caliper's other than a piston upgrade....
Thanks to all for the help
03-07-2011, 01:59 PM
#12
Race Director
I would only disagree if you are doing TT or other short sessions where you don't have brake problems. If your current brakes are holding up then spend the money to go faster
03-07-2011, 02:55 PM
#14
Safety Car
A bunch of BS in this post.
The stock brakes will hold up for sprint races -35-40 minutes.
It's a pain to change pads and rotors all of the time, but the brakes themselves last for the race.
The aero will help you a lot on certain tracks.
If you already have 18 inch wheels, going to the BBK is a lot less painful.
I want it all, but don't want to pay for it!
Tim
The stock brakes will hold up for sprint races -35-40 minutes.
It's a pain to change pads and rotors all of the time, but the brakes themselves last for the race.
The aero will help you a lot on certain tracks.
If you already have 18 inch wheels, going to the BBK is a lot less painful.
I want it all, but don't want to pay for it!
Tim
03-07-2011, 03:08 PM
#15
Safety Car
A bunch of BS in this post.
The stock brakes will hold up for sprint races -35-40 minutes.
It's a pain to change pads and rotors all of the time, but the brakes themselves last for the race.
The aero will help you a lot on certain tracks.
If you already have 18 inch wheels, going to the BBK is a lot less painful.
I want it all, but don't want to pay for it!
Tim
The stock brakes will hold up for sprint races -35-40 minutes.
It's a pain to change pads and rotors all of the time, but the brakes themselves last for the race.
The aero will help you a lot on certain tracks.
If you already have 18 inch wheels, going to the BBK is a lot less painful.
I want it all, but don't want to pay for it!
Tim
Sure there are better options but a BBK won't make you any faster. It'll simply reduce your consumables costs over time mainly in the form of brake pads.
03-07-2011, 03:36 PM
#16
Le Mans Master
A bunch of BS in this post.
The stock brakes will hold up for sprint races -35-40 minutes.
It's a pain to change pads and rotors all of the time, but the brakes themselves last for the race.
The aero will help you a lot on certain tracks.
If you already have 18 inch wheels, going to the BBK is a lot less painful.
I want it all, but don't want to pay for it!
Tim
The stock brakes will hold up for sprint races -35-40 minutes.
It's a pain to change pads and rotors all of the time, but the brakes themselves last for the race.
The aero will help you a lot on certain tracks.
If you already have 18 inch wheels, going to the BBK is a lot less painful.
I want it all, but don't want to pay for it!
Tim
If you're planning on Enduro racing or HPDE's then go for the big brakes, but if you're after speed immediately, go aero.
If you're doing the proper pre race maintenance then the most of the labor of maintaining the brakes is an issue you have to deal with anyway, i.e. bleeding, and checking.
I still run stock calipers on my car. Depending on the pads I use, changing front rotors every 2 or 4 weekends (1 practice session, 2 short qualifying sessions and 2 - 35 minute races per weekend) and the rears 3 to 6.
Sure, big brakes with thicker pads would be nice and cheaper, but the stock ones will work.
Obviously, if you're in HPDE then you will be on track a lot longer each weekend and because of that using more brake, and no need for aero.
03-07-2011, 04:30 PM
#17
Team Owner
03-07-2011, 05:04 PM
#18
Team Owner
Aero works just as good at HPDE as a race. Big Brakes make you faster if they give you more confidence and use it. Aero also can give you more confidence as the car stops and handles better. If you are doing both mods eventually the brakes make more sense first even though I love aero. Stock calipers, rotors and pads sucks and can be trashed in in less than 8 20 minute session if run hard on the right track. Long mushy pedal is not a confidence maker.
Aero will require stiffer springs if it works. Depends on if you are really creating some good down-force.
Aero will require stiffer springs if it works. Depends on if you are really creating some good down-force.
Last edited by John Shiels; 03-07-2011 at 05:12 PM.
03-07-2011, 08:34 PM
#19
Le Mans Master
A bunch of BS in this post.
The stock brakes will hold up for sprint races -35-40 minutes.
It's a pain to change pads and rotors all of the time, but the brakes themselves last for the race.
The aero will help you a lot on certain tracks.
If you already have 18 inch wheels, going to the BBK is a lot less painful.
I want it all, but don't want to pay for it!
Tim
The stock brakes will hold up for sprint races -35-40 minutes.
It's a pain to change pads and rotors all of the time, but the brakes themselves last for the race.
The aero will help you a lot on certain tracks.
If you already have 18 inch wheels, going to the BBK is a lot less painful.
I want it all, but don't want to pay for it!
Tim
Agree the stock brakes will last for a spirited race, but there's more to brakes than just simply lasting. I've written endless times about the stock brakes on my T1 car and how I hate them. I had more cracked rotors last year than I care to remember. They are binary when applied. A good brake system will allow smooth modulation which will make for faster and safer driving, especially when trailbraking.
Aero should not be overlooked, but it will make you go faster given a good driver which will require better brakes.
One thing is for certain. You can't win the mod game, there's always a ripple effect to needing something else to counter the upgrade just made.
Mike
03-07-2011, 08:34 PM
#20
Drifting
Thread Starter
I agree with Tim.
If you're planning on Enduro racing or HPDE's then go for the big brakes, but if you're after speed immediately, go aero.
If you're doing the proper pre race maintenance then the most of the labor of maintaining the brakes is an issue you have to deal with anyway, i.e. bleeding, and checking.
I still run stock calipers on my car. Depending on the pads I use, changing front rotors every 2 or 4 weekends (1 practice session, 2 short qualifying sessions and 2 - 35 minute races per weekend) and the rears 3 to 6.
Sure, big brakes with thicker pads would be nice and cheaper, but the stock ones will work.
Obviously, if you're in HPDE then you will be on track a lot longer each weekend and because of that using more brake, and no need for aero.
If you're planning on Enduro racing or HPDE's then go for the big brakes, but if you're after speed immediately, go aero.
If you're doing the proper pre race maintenance then the most of the labor of maintaining the brakes is an issue you have to deal with anyway, i.e. bleeding, and checking.
I still run stock calipers on my car. Depending on the pads I use, changing front rotors every 2 or 4 weekends (1 practice session, 2 short qualifying sessions and 2 - 35 minute races per weekend) and the rears 3 to 6.
Sure, big brakes with thicker pads would be nice and cheaper, but the stock ones will work.
Obviously, if you're in HPDE then you will be on track a lot longer each weekend and because of that using more brake, and no need for aero.
I have had zero issues with my brakes with the Hawk pads, cooling ducts and Brembo fluid, in HPDE. I just didn't know how well they would hold up in an actual ST2 race-I appreciate the input