Dr.Ron

I have been only doing 1-3 HPDE events/year. What I normally do is remove washers from the control arms so the shop can add negative camber, I put on a different set of front rotors with a racing pad. Then put on my Hoosier R6's all around and go get an alignment. Then after the HPDE day, I un-do everything back to stock.
The alignment shop gives me 2 for 1 on the alignments, and I have the process down to 2:30-2:45 min. in my garage. I do this so I don't chew up my street tires.
The problem is that I am tired of doing all of this work for so few track days. What I want to do is get (new OR used) a set of tires that I can mount on my wheels that are stickier then street tires (I know they will be less sticky then the Hoosiers) that I can run on at the stock alignment settings. I only run at 7-8 tenths anyway, so I likely won't be giving up much performance.
If I can drive to the track on these tires, that would be a bonus, but it's not required.

I'd appreciate all opinions and suggestions!

Thanks!

Ron

rayk

Well, I've got a set of rims that need tires. I was going to go with Hoosiers, but I too want to drive to the track. Michelin Pilot Super Sports look like an option. They have the sizes out now for the Z06 and GS. Looks like run-flats isn't an option. They are cheaper then the GEN2's and last longer then the either the GEN2's or Cups.

argonaut

The 'max performance summer' class of tires are a good choice for your needs. Here is a link to TireRack testing of them: max performance tire test

I have the Continental DW tires and have used them on track in both wet and dry. I have traqmate data showing they are about 1 second slower per 1 min of lap time than hoosiers (at least with me driving). They are 340 treadwear and can handle a little camber just fine without premature wear.

Dr.Ron

Thanks for the replies. Figured I'd get more replies.

Wicked Weasel

I am waiting for the offer of free teeth whitening before answering.


Personally I would get an agressive street alignment and then find a tire which is no full blown slick but better than your average street tire.

The best all around tire I have ever used were the Michelin pilot sport cups but they are expensive.

Toyo Proxes R888 are good. I believe you can get them in z06 sizes and if you look around you probably find a decent used set which would be perfect for you.

rayk

888's is only available up to 305 for the 19 inch wheel. Toyo said to check with the dealer.

My list.
Goodyear GEN:2 Runflats - Expensive and heavy.
Hoosier - Cheaper, but not recommended for driving to the track.
Michelin Pilot Sport Cups - Expensive.
Michelin Pilot Sport - Less expensive and longer wear (Viper size).
Michelin Super Sports - Less expensive and longer wear.
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2

I'm sure there is more choices I haven't found yet. (edited). Looks like Super Sports are the ones. I don't want run flats for the track.

Dr.Ron

Funny Bob. I will look for used somethings. Don't want to go for broke on new tires.
The super sports sound great until I add up the prices!

I guess searches for used tires are in my future for a while.

Ron

rayk

Well, GEN:2's only lasted 4 track days. I'm hoping the SS's last longer even if they are less sticky. I'll just adjust as needed.

hungryhippo

What about nitto nt-05's?

rayk

Nitto NT-05's have sizes that will work. However the tire is rated for 168 mph, (W).

Added it to list.

Goodyear GEN:2 Runflats - Expensive and heavy.
Hoosier - Cheaper, but not recommended for driving to the track.
Michelin Pilot Sport Cups - Expensive.
Michelin Pilot Sport - Less expensive and longer wear (Viper size).
Michelin Super Sports - Less expensive and longer wear.
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
Nitto NT-05's - Speed rated for 168 mph, Around $1200 for all 4.

** All tires except for Nitto rated for 186 mph.

topmover

PS2's ride nice, good in weather and have very respectable grip on the track.

Dr.Ron

I was not looking to spend that much money....

isnider

Get the Michelin Sport Cups and run -2 up front and -1.5 in the rear and call it a day. If this is your daily driver, go with the Super Sports. I have two sets of rims and tires, one with the PS2 and one set with the MPSC, and never bothered putting the PS2's back on....

The MPSC are WAY safer than Hoosier's since the MPSC are a zero pressure tire and made to take the abuse on the street too. I would guess I am only giving up 1-2 seconds on a 3 mile course with the MPSC over an R6 and I picked up 8-10 seconds over the PS2 vs. MPSC.

If you are concerned about tire wear, here is some treadwear numbers to compare...

Super Sport 330
PS2 220
MPSC 80
R6 40

Just my 2 cents....

Ian

beerkat

Nitto's R2s is a very good tire I used it for a long time. I have friends who use the NT 05s and they are very happy with them. Of course we do not see speeds above a 145 at the tracks we drive.

Canam

I'm surprised someone hasn't mentioned RS3's. ( if you can get them).

Dr.Ron

They don't have big enough sizes.

VicCaerter

I like scrub R888s. I went to an 18" rear wheel thou. I haven't done too many HPDEs, but it was amazing how much better they were than GY G1s.

sothpaw2

I was looking for street tires just now and I was really considering the RS3's very seriously. Smaller sizes but 285 rear is enough for the street. I went w/the NT05 though as Discount had a sale ($100 rebate) that made them far cheaper. Plus a 200 teadwear rating is more reasonable than the 150 (read review that they only last 15000 mi...sounds like Nitto RII).

Z06TWT

On my C5Z all I run is the Nitto 05 and I track the car,rain or shine, at least once per month. I can run with other C5Z cars on their racing compound tires and keep up just fine.....then drive home without changing tires. The price is great and with a mild track alignment they can last a dozen track days.

AU N EGL

Toyo 888s or Nitto 05s with aggressive street alignment.

I did my first 10 to 12 HPDEs on Mich PSs