1966 Corvette vs 2015 Camry: Edmunds Goes Old vs New
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1966 Corvette vs 2015 Camry: Edmunds Goes Old vs New
Edmunds took a 1966 Corvette Stingray and a 2015 Toyota Camry, and pitted them squarely up against each other on the track.
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#2
Race Director
Meh - to paraphrase the billboard sign - "They don't write songs about........Camrys".
#4
Race Director
mmmeeehhh
#6
Le Mans Master
Waiiiit a minute. That was awesome! What's up with the naysayers? It's an interesting piece. I am often telling people a v6 accord is about as fast as my old l75. Probably the truth is it's quite a bit faster as this Camry comparison shows.
No one is irreverent about the Corvette in the clip- on the contrary it simple underscores that an older slower car can be a hoot drive and is wayyyy sexier.
I thought the gratuitous sliding around the track was good to see. We should all go do it.
I will say a set of radials would have helped the lap times.
Hot laps in a bone stock base suspension c2 with 205 radials teaches you the limits of the car ARE low compared to modern hardware. I found this to be true. The old Corvettes we see running competitively have been set up thoughtfully to get those results.
No one is irreverent about the Corvette in the clip- on the contrary it simple underscores that an older slower car can be a hoot drive and is wayyyy sexier.
I thought the gratuitous sliding around the track was good to see. We should all go do it.
I will say a set of radials would have helped the lap times.
Hot laps in a bone stock base suspension c2 with 205 radials teaches you the limits of the car ARE low compared to modern hardware. I found this to be true. The old Corvettes we see running competitively have been set up thoughtfully to get those results.
#8
Burning Brakes
I've had this conversation too many times regarding my '70 Jag XKE, and other old Jags I've owned, not to mention the Ferrari 308 and 328 that I used to own. In stock configuration, most old cars simply can't keep up with most modern cars, even a lot of those econoboxes. 30, 40, 50 year old technology is no match for what modern manufacturers are putting on the road.
Now, are there old cars out there that can be competitive? Sure. But I seriously doubt that they are stock, running on old bias ply tires. At the very least, they are going to be running radials, and the engine, drive train, suspension and brakes have likely been upgraded as well. Even so, without major work, old cars simply don't compete well with modern technology.
But at least in my case, I don't give a hoot. I don't own the old cars to race them or try to prove something to anyone else. I can't tell you how many times I've been challenged to race the XKE, one of the Ferraris or the Vette. I simply say "no thanks", smile and wave as the a-hole screeches his tires pulling away at the traffic light.
I enjoy the old cars for what they are. I don't care what others think. For me, it's not about whose car is faster. It's just about loving the old cars and keeping them on the road.
Now, are there old cars out there that can be competitive? Sure. But I seriously doubt that they are stock, running on old bias ply tires. At the very least, they are going to be running radials, and the engine, drive train, suspension and brakes have likely been upgraded as well. Even so, without major work, old cars simply don't compete well with modern technology.
But at least in my case, I don't give a hoot. I don't own the old cars to race them or try to prove something to anyone else. I can't tell you how many times I've been challenged to race the XKE, one of the Ferraris or the Vette. I simply say "no thanks", smile and wave as the a-hole screeches his tires pulling away at the traffic light.
I enjoy the old cars for what they are. I don't care what others think. For me, it's not about whose car is faster. It's just about loving the old cars and keeping them on the road.
#11
Melting Slicks
This helps to explain why I enjoy my 1995 LT1 6-speed SO much. It is the driving experience, and the driver-focused cockpit feel of the interior. I could afford a newer, faster and more powerful Corvette, and someday maybe I will "upgrade," but the later models have a different feel than the C4. Different is not always better - it all depends what you are looking for.
And my car can surely out-handle and out-accelerate a 2015 Camry V6. LOL
And my car can surely out-handle and out-accelerate a 2015 Camry V6. LOL
#12
Le Mans Master
Road and track tested a new powerglide l75 at 15.2- ergo somewhere in mid 14's feels about right for a four speed driver with some age on it.
We all know Donny knows how to make one RUN!
We all know Donny knows how to make one RUN!
#14
Le Mans Master
Thats was fun, and its good seeing Carlos Lago doing car videos again. If you don't remember, he used to be at Motortrend.
#15
Race Director
I wanted to see some skid pad g meter results, though.
I put a G meter in my '61 and at .5G on the skidpad, I felt like I was going to fly out either door, even wearing the seatbelt. BTW, .5 was pretty much the limit before things started getting squirrely.
Doug
Last edited by AZDoug; 07-28-2015 at 05:18 PM.
#16
Le Mans Master
OK, now let's do a comparo between a 1918 Model T and the 1966 Corvette. Both lame comparisons...time and technology march on, which can be a good thing. Like he states, though, the Corvette is the one everyone would prefer to drive...myself included.
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Like the magazine compare really means anything.
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I suspect most any old soccer mom out in her mid-priced modern sedan could suck the windshield out of my base motor '63 head-to-head....but her ride will NEVER approach the beauty of mine....