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So - a 300hp, wrong color, field-stripped car that will take $24K-$30K to get back up to snuff and then the new owner will be into it for $100K (if he's lucky).
The same guy could have my red-red, no-hit, 93% regional second flight car for that money - a turn key, no excuses, head-turner...
Well - not according to some who are picking up fuelie splits for peanuts...
I think this particular market for split windows is still 'finding itself'; I see crazy numbers on both sides of the spectrum...makes life interesting
Yep, interesting for us who got a seat at the table, no doubt. Lots of sour grapes being thrown about as well.
In my estimation the REAL number on the subject car of the OP is somewhere under 50, but he's into it for more than that. I haven't checked but he said it's still on All Valley's website for $65K.
I think he is priced close to what it will sell for. I don't own a 63 , never have.
These original unrestored unmolested examples aren't exactly growing on trees.
I think he is priced close to what it will sell for. I don't own a 63 , never have.
These original unrestored unmolested examples aren't exactly growing on trees.
Well, "unrestored, unmolested", and "worn out, in need of restoration" is a line I think this car has crossed. While my SWC, er, '63 coupe is a little more needy, I don't think the difference on condition is that great. I bought mine back in September, but the difference in price is worlds apart.
actually, I have seen 'survivors' at car shows that look like that...
Bill
I am fine with the worn original paint.
My objection is with the custom painted, mismatched hood and center of the nose.
I just don't consider this to be an unmolested survivor.
I am fine with the worn original paint.
My objection is with the custom painted, mismatched hood and center of the nose.
I just don't consider this to be an unmolested survivor.
Something obviously happened in the engine compartment that damaged the hood -- fire maybe? Rod says the car was put away in 1977, has a maintenance sticker on the door from a year or two prior indicating 15,xxx miles, so maybe the odometer is actual mileage. Looking at the interior, things like seats and armrests show little wear and could very well be original pieces.
I suspect there was a catastrophic engine failure when the car was 13 or 14 years old, it was put away for future repair, and after starting the project it turned out to be too much work for the owner and was never finished.
At least that's my story, and I'm sticking with it
With the less than stellar reputation the Bedford operation has, I'd be hard pressed to believe anything they told me, or for that matter, not wanting to buy a split window or a broken window from those dudes.
Don't know Rod S. personally, but, he can talk the talk. I watched him blow smoke up some guys butt while trying to sell his red split window drag car a couple years ago at Carlisle. I think he dragged it back home after the event.
I am fine with the worn original paint.
My objection is with the custom painted, mismatched hood and center of the nose.
I just don't consider this to be an unmolested survivor.
Original has a lot of different meanings. There is no agreed upon definition of original. (btw- Bloomington Gold copyrighted the term Survivor many years ago.) I wrote an article about all of this a few months back.
If you intend to show the car as being an original car make sure you do a lot of research and see what BG and NCRS consider original.
A judged and certified original car is worth more than a restored car. Keep that in mind.
A restoration today runs about $150,000 - maybe more. You'll never get that money back when you sell the car. You restore a car because you can. Restoration is a terrible financial decision and no one does it to make money.
A third choice and the one I've made with my '58 is to just keep fixing the car up a little at a time. Every year I do something to the car. I'm working up to the $15,000 paint job we all dread. It won't make the car drive any better but it will look nice.
"He feels the car's originality merits a premium".....The Titanic is all original, isn't it? Must be worth a fortune!
Well yes you are correct. Titanic artifacts are pretty costly.
Regarding the SWC in question I think if it has all original components, a good frame and an engine that runs or is rebuildable I would consider it a survivor. Only one mans opinion of course and differing opinions are what makes the discussion interesting
I consider all old cars survivors if they're still with us. Survivor is a word in the English language.... I refuse to acknowledge the validity of it being copyrighted by a group of arrogant nitpickers. Not buying into it at all. I think the SWC in question is a neat car that is overpriced, but not by a whole lot. I think at 50k it would be gone. And another thing: I think in 5-8 years time, 69k will seem like a good deal.
I consider all old cars survivors if they're still with us. Survivor is a word in the English language.... I refuse to acknowledge the validity of it being copyrighted by a group of arrogant nitpickers. Not buying into it at all. I think the SWC in question is a neat car that is overpriced, but not by a whole lot. I think at 50k it would be gone. And another thing: I think in 5-8 years time, 69k will seem like a good deal.
Not to change the thread but saw this the other day if it wasn't for corvettes I would a GTO owner for sure my friend in High school had a 1964 let me tell you that thing was run hard and no body beat us ,
We didn't race Corvettes couldn't find any ran everything we came across.
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