Front Body Shims and door gap?
#1
Drifting
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Front Body Shims and door gap?
I know I need to raise the front and add shims to aleviate the top gap on the front of both doors, it has sagged since I got it and is not factory gaps, they used to be closer.(1981 Model) Where do I loosen, lift and add the shims? I have the AIM, but thought I would ask here first, thanks. I know it is not rocket science, no rust that I can find that would have caused it. Maybe the shims just rusted away. Any help is appreciated.
#2
Burning Brakes
I'm not so sure your gaps are because the front end sagged. The fenders and the surround are glued along two lines each about 8 inches or so apart on each side of the firewall, so for the front clip to sag there seems unlikely. However to move it, you're going to have to separate the front end from the firewall breaking the adhesive using a heat gun seems to be the method of choice. Then the two lower radiator support bolts and the bolts that hold the actual bumper on the frame need to be loosened, and you can move the clip.
I've not done this, but I've got the same problem you do and since I'm fixing prior poor repairs on my front clip, I've looked at doing this. Also, my gaps are only open from the belt line up, below the belt line they're good. I did move the clip on the very front just a bit, but that was to get the hood to fit better. I'm probably going to use the resin and filler I've used in other parts of my repairs to fix the gaps.
I've not done this, but I've got the same problem you do and since I'm fixing prior poor repairs on my front clip, I've looked at doing this. Also, my gaps are only open from the belt line up, below the belt line they're good. I did move the clip on the very front just a bit, but that was to get the hood to fit better. I'm probably going to use the resin and filler I've used in other parts of my repairs to fix the gaps.
#3
Drifting
IMO, shimming extra on the #1 and #2 mounts raises the entire shooting match.. I ensure the tops of my fenders and front of the doors lined up before I re-glued the front clip on... How does the bottom of the fender and bottom-front of the door line up??? What's the rear gap look like... Worn hinge bushings will pull the door a little away from the fender... There's also quite a bit of adjustment at the door hinge, but that will affect the rear gap some... You got pictures of both gaps??? Hard to make a good recommendation without seeing the entire thing...
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If you think the reason your front door gap has increased at the top you can either add shims to the #3 & #4 mounts or remove them from #2. My bet would be the hinge bushings and pins are worn and the hinges them selfs have sagged. There are shims on the hinges between the hinge and door frame, these will control the fit of the front of the door to the body. The hinge bolts to the body can be loosened and lift the door from the rear to correct part of the door gap at the front. This can get a little complicated, the door can move on the hinge and the hinge can move on the body plus what the shims can do.
#6
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Might help,
I don't know about your sources to compare with but this car is all factory gaps. If yours is other than this, then I would try to come as close as possible to it......
#8
Melting Slicks
Fix this at the doors. If the rest of the body mount points aren't rusted as you said, the shims alone wouldn't have rusted away.
Have a helper around to adjust the doors.
Have a helper around to adjust the doors.
#9
Burning Brakes
If the gaps at the rear of the doors is correct, adjusting the door isn't the answer. I think if those gaps are correct, the answer is at the fender, and since it's glued to the firewall, you'll have to break the bond, or add material to fix the gaps.
#10
Melting Slicks
Be sure to loosen this center body mount cushion as well before you lift your 1980-1982.
Perhaps someone else will chim in on the possibility that the extra wide front door gap is the result of deterioration of this center rubber body mount or a misaligned front bumper support.