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Old 03-31-2014, 11:43 AM
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Some info from another forum that I found:

Penetrating Oils Compared

Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break
out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.


Penetrating oil .......... Average load
None ..................... 516 pounds
WD-40 .................... 238 pounds
PB Blaster ............... 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ............ 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ............... 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix............ 53 pounds

The Automatic Transmission fluid (ATF)-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mixof 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone.

Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this
one particular test.
A local machinist group mixed up a batch and all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is aboutas good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.
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Rats im fixing to try crc freeze-off, no test on it. have heard that before on the on the mix with automatic trans fluid. wonder if they looked at coca-cola, broken many an engine loose and people put that in there stomach

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I have 2 cans of that Freeze stuff, had them for a few years, never tried them yet, been using Kroil, now I am going to mix my own, I think I have done that years ago but can't remember how good the home brew is
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Any particular ATF used?

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I'd like to read more about the test environment. Got a link to this?
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
I have 2 cans of that Freeze stuff, had them for a few years, never tried them yet, been using Kroil, now I am going to mix my own, I think I have done that years ago but can't remember how good the home brew is
Good info, I will give that ATF/acetone mix a try! I've been wanting to try that freeze stuff....I wonder how well it works?

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Originally Posted by MotorHead
Some info from another forum that I found:
Penetrating Oils Compared
Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break
out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results!

Penetrating oil .......... Average load
None ..................... 516 pounds
WD-40 .................... 238 pounds
PB Blaster ............... 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ............ 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ............... 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix............ 53 pounds

The Automatic Transmission fluid (ATF)-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mixof 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone.


NOW you tell me after I did the rear suspension!

But seriously.....

thanks for the good info....I still have to do the front suspension!
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i used atf / acetone years ago and it always worked well. i tried wd-40 rust release and it worked pretty well. im gonna mix up a batch of atf and keep it in a spray bottle.
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I'm going to give that a shot on a set of 427 AIR tubes that have never been unbolted from the exhaust manifolds since 1969....
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Great info...I'm in the middle of a frame off....thank you!!!
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Good to know, thanks. How's the retirement going?
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
I have 2 cans of that Freeze stuff, had them for a few years, never tried them yet, been using Kroil, now I am going to mix my own, I think I have done that years ago but can't remember how good the home brew is
I saw these test results on speed talk quite some time ago. Never thought it would be of that much interest to share it.
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Thanks for the info.

I've always used Kano Kroil, but thats going to change.
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Originally Posted by 7t2vette
Good info, I will give that ATF/acetone mix a try! I've been wanting to try that freeze stuff....I wonder how well it works?

I have a busted off harmonic balancer bolt to get out of a V6. tomorrow I may well give the freeze-off its test, wd 40 did nothing to help.

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Perfect timing I'm doing exhaust manifolds on my 93 Z71 with 220,000 miles on them. This will come in handy
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It's very interesting. I'd like to do some tests myself but my '74 is a California car and hasn't had a stuck bolt yet

But thanks for the tip
I WILL remember it !!!

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Originally Posted by 7t9l82
i used atf / acetone years ago and it always worked well. i tried wd-40 rust release and it worked pretty well. im gonna mix up a batch of atf and keep it in a spray bottle.
Acetone is quite low boiling (B.P. 57*C) and will tend to build pressure in the bottle, possibly causing causing it to leak. It needs to be kept in a container with a tight-fitting lid. It is sold at a huge mark-up.
Since you don't need a large quantity, nail polish remover is much cheaper. Nail polish remover is usually a mixture of acetone and ethyl acetate (B.P. 77*C) and should work as well, or better.

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