Radiator Road debris
#1
Radiator Road debris
From what I have read all C4s have this problem of sucking up trash between the radiator and condenser. When I get a flashlight close I can see some debris in there. Is there any tricks to getting it out other than removing the upper part of the radiator shroud ?
I have looked at it and after taking off the air cleaner and unbolting the fan from the top of the shroud there are like maybe 10 screws.
Any gotchas with this ? Do I have to remove it completely or are there certain bolts that will allow me access with a vacuum.
Anyone done any mods to make this easier ? I was thinking of cutting a piece out of the top of the shroud, under the air cleaner assembly and maybe bolting it back on ?? is that too Bubba ???
I have looked at it and after taking off the air cleaner and unbolting the fan from the top of the shroud there are like maybe 10 screws.
Any gotchas with this ? Do I have to remove it completely or are there certain bolts that will allow me access with a vacuum.
Anyone done any mods to make this easier ? I was thinking of cutting a piece out of the top of the shroud, under the air cleaner assembly and maybe bolting it back on ?? is that too Bubba ???
#2
No bubbaing aloud the 6 7mm in the nose are a pita use el tape and a flat ratchet wrench on some of them. If it is a lt1 pull the radiator out to clean to keep from getting the opti wet. Does a better job on others too. Good time to pull the knocks and do a proper flush.
#3
Flush is coming in about a week. Did not get to it last weekend. Replaced the exhaust though. Next weekend is rear diff and radiator flush.
It's an L98. Just looking to handle the little stuff so when its at my buddys place on the lift we can concentrate on the important stuff.
I'm really surprised that there is no " non Bubba" fix for this. Whats a regular maintenance on this ? as needed or every like 6 months ?
It's an L98. Just looking to handle the little stuff so when its at my buddys place on the lift we can concentrate on the important stuff.
I'm really surprised that there is no " non Bubba" fix for this. Whats a regular maintenance on this ? as needed or every like 6 months ?
#4
Flush is coming in about a week. Did not get to it last weekend. Replaced the exhaust though. Next weekend is rear diff and radiator flush.
It's an L98. Just looking to handle the little stuff so when its at my buddys place on the lift we can concentrate on the important stuff.
I'm really surprised that there is no " non Bubba" fix for this. Whats a regular maintenance on this ? as needed or every like 6 months ?
It's an L98. Just looking to handle the little stuff so when its at my buddys place on the lift we can concentrate on the important stuff.
I'm really surprised that there is no " non Bubba" fix for this. Whats a regular maintenance on this ? as needed or every like 6 months ?
As far as how often could be years or daily if you follow a hay wagon.
I do not support bubbaing.
Last edited by antfarmer2; 05-25-2016 at 03:25 PM.
#5
Antfarmer2
I also am against bubbaing but these things can be crazy difficult to do straight forward things on.
There are hay wagons around here, but not many. However since I'm in the deep south of north Florida any heat regulation advantage I can give the car I will try.
I also am against bubbaing but these things can be crazy difficult to do straight forward things on.
There are hay wagons around here, but not many. However since I'm in the deep south of north Florida any heat regulation advantage I can give the car I will try.
#6
Antfarmer2
I also am against bubbaing but these things can be crazy difficult to do straight forward things on.
There are hay wagons around here, but not many. However since I'm in the deep south of north Florida any heat regulation advantage I can give the car I will try.
I also am against bubbaing but these things can be crazy difficult to do straight forward things on.
There are hay wagons around here, but not many. However since I'm in the deep south of north Florida any heat regulation advantage I can give the car I will try.
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Is there any tricks to getting it out other than removing the upper part of the radiator shroud ?
Any gotchas with this ? Do I have to remove it completely or are there certain bolts that will allow me access with a vacuum.
Anyone done any mods to make this easier ? I was thinking of cutting a piece out of the top of the shroud, under the air cleaner assembly and maybe bolting it back on ?? is that too Bubba ???
Any gotchas with this ? Do I have to remove it completely or are there certain bolts that will allow me access with a vacuum.
Anyone done any mods to make this easier ? I was thinking of cutting a piece out of the top of the shroud, under the air cleaner assembly and maybe bolting it back on ?? is that too Bubba ???
#8
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Pics of shroud removal, HERE.
How to remove those 7mm headed screws once you've hit the "Easy Button"....
How to remove those 7mm headed screws once you've hit the "Easy Button"....
Last edited by Tom400CFI; 05-27-2016 at 10:48 AM.
#9
A flat ratchet wrench will help on some too and electric tape will save a lot of cussing putting them back holding the screw in the tool.
#10
Tom, that's a link to a pick of a brake line nut ;-)
Antfarmer2 : I tried this yesterday but lost my nerve. The AC dryer, Power steering reservoir and a couple of relays are all mounted on this thing. I removed the two 14mm fan shroud bolts, a bunch of 7mm bolts and some 10 mm bolts but could not quite get it loose.
I was not trying to take it off because I was not removing any radiator hoses but I wanted to lift it enough to get a vacuum in there. I figured I had missed a bolt or something. As usual FSM was useless. pretty much remove bolts and remove shroud. yeah no **** !? There is a thread in the C4 forum on this but it is for newer model C4s
so when I try it next week when I have more time, I will try and take pics. I hate to say it but these cars are friggin ridiculous to work on. You can tell they were designed by a bunch of academics. I am going to cut a door in the top of the shroud which will be covered by the air intake to make this a 10 minute job in future.
Antfarmer2 : I tried this yesterday but lost my nerve. The AC dryer, Power steering reservoir and a couple of relays are all mounted on this thing. I removed the two 14mm fan shroud bolts, a bunch of 7mm bolts and some 10 mm bolts but could not quite get it loose.
I was not trying to take it off because I was not removing any radiator hoses but I wanted to lift it enough to get a vacuum in there. I figured I had missed a bolt or something. As usual FSM was useless. pretty much remove bolts and remove shroud. yeah no **** !? There is a thread in the C4 forum on this but it is for newer model C4s
so when I try it next week when I have more time, I will try and take pics. I hate to say it but these cars are friggin ridiculous to work on. You can tell they were designed by a bunch of academics. I am going to cut a door in the top of the shroud which will be covered by the air intake to make this a 10 minute job in future.
#11
Alright bubba at least you do not have to worry about getting the opti wet. Make sure you really get all the fins clean since you will not be able to see them.
#12
No opti on this one thankfully.
Well I'll get a better look when I take it off. If I don't think a maintenance opening (like that ?) is going to facilitate removal of leaves and debris I obviously wont do it. But if it will enable a decent clean, regularly, its on !!
Well I'll get a better look when I take it off. If I don't think a maintenance opening (like that ?) is going to facilitate removal of leaves and debris I obviously wont do it. But if it will enable a decent clean, regularly, its on !!
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#14
Ok great Tom has you covered don't be a BUBBA one you do it right you will see it will never be cleaned right by a bubba.
#15
Le Mans Master
From what I have read all C4s have this problem of sucking up trash between the radiator and condenser. When I get a flashlight close I can see some debris in there. Is there any tricks to getting it out other than removing the upper part of the radiator shroud ?
I have looked at it and after taking off the air cleaner and unbolting the fan from the top of the shroud there are like maybe 10 screws.
Any gotchas with this ? Do I have to remove it completely or are there certain bolts that will allow me access with a vacuum.
Anyone done any mods to make this easier ? I was thinking of cutting a piece out of the top of the shroud, under the air cleaner assembly and maybe bolting it back on ?? is that too Bubba ???
I have looked at it and after taking off the air cleaner and unbolting the fan from the top of the shroud there are like maybe 10 screws.
Any gotchas with this ? Do I have to remove it completely or are there certain bolts that will allow me access with a vacuum.
Anyone done any mods to make this easier ? I was thinking of cutting a piece out of the top of the shroud, under the air cleaner assembly and maybe bolting it back on ?? is that too Bubba ???
#16
Holy crap Cruisinfanatic !!
What did you use to clean it ?
The link to the shroud removal is late C4, mine is 88. I used that as reference but no joy. Will tyr again when im off.
Antfarmer2, call me Mr. Bubba ;-)
What did you use to clean it ?
The link to the shroud removal is late C4, mine is 88. I used that as reference but no joy. Will tyr again when im off.
Antfarmer2, call me Mr. Bubba ;-)
#17