My budget engine rebuild.....
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My budget engine rebuild.....
Here are some photos of the budget engine that Im rebuilding well it is not realy a rebuild since most all parts are new, it is not a race engine just a good daily driver. I got most off the part on ebay or on here.
what do you guys think?
[Modified by MrJay, 8:38 AM 9/3/2003]
what do you guys think?
[Modified by MrJay, 8:38 AM 9/3/2003]
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (MrJay)
Id85 I guess all engine rebuild start as a budget one but then they take off...I was reading what you have in yours are it looks great wish this one was a 406ci.
Agent 86 Im trying to make the most HP and TQ and still have it a good daily driver.
PonyH8R Im trying to do this engine for about $3000, Im doing all the work myself and my brother does all the machine work so that does not cost me that much, I got the block on Ebay for $400 it is a new ZZ4 block.
[Modified by MrJay, 12:07 PM 9/3/2003]
Agent 86 Im trying to make the most HP and TQ and still have it a good daily driver.
PonyH8R Im trying to do this engine for about $3000, Im doing all the work myself and my brother does all the machine work so that does not cost me that much, I got the block on Ebay for $400 it is a new ZZ4 block.
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (MrJay)
PonyH8R Im trying to do this engine for about $3000, Im doing all the work myself and then my brother does all the machine work so that does not cost me that much, I got the block on Ebay for $400 it is a new ZZ4 block.
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (MrJay)
Id85 I guess all engine rebuild start as a budget one but then they take off...I was reading what you have in yours are it looks great wish this one was a 406ci.
I had a budget once then I started building the motor. I think a budget is just theory because I have never seen one actualy work, a bit like cold fusion sounds good on paper. My idea was to build a stock LT1 and replace my X-fire motor :lolg: . A LT4 hotcam, ported heads/intake and oversize valves, electric water pump, headers, LT4 RRs, ECM programing, New injectors, 52mm TB, and the cost of rebuilding a LT1 compared to a normal SBC later poof no more budget.
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (ejfagala)
Problem is,,, I aint done yet :lolg: :lolg: :lolg: :lolg:
Mr Jay, fill us in on the specifics when you have time, cam etc.
[Modified by ld85, 2:37 PM 9/3/2003]
Mr Jay, fill us in on the specifics when you have time, cam etc.
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (MrJay)
Opps sorry that I did not post what was in it...
Block...ZZ4
Crank...Scat cast 3.48
Rods...Eagle SIR 5.7
Pistons...TRW-SpeedPro forged
Rings...SpeedPro Molly
Cam...CompCam 224-232 @0.050 0.503-0.510 lift with 1.5 112 set on 106
Lifters...Crane
Timing chain...Cloyes True Roller
Here is what I have got in the short block...I have not got the pan or the pump yet so I dont know what it will be.
Jay
Block...ZZ4
Crank...Scat cast 3.48
Rods...Eagle SIR 5.7
Pistons...TRW-SpeedPro forged
Rings...SpeedPro Molly
Cam...CompCam 224-232 @0.050 0.503-0.510 lift with 1.5 112 set on 106
Lifters...Crane
Timing chain...Cloyes True Roller
Here is what I have got in the short block...I have not got the pan or the pump yet so I dont know what it will be.
Jay
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (MrJay)
Head info
The heads are 128 Corvette Heads that have been ported on the intake and the exhaust, guides K-lined, Manley proflow stainless 1.94 intakes, 1.5 Manley exhaust. Pocket are cut for larger springs: Crane 1.420 dia dual springs PN#99893, 125# seat (1.812 installed height) and 325# open (1.272) Hardened guideplates. ARP rocker studs. The bowl has been reworked and stems contoured. The short radius has been blended and the intake ports expanded and matched to a Felpro 1205 (1.28 wide x 2.09 tall).
Intake... I dont know what I will use yet but the LT1 looks really good or the Stealth Ram.
The heads are 128 Corvette Heads that have been ported on the intake and the exhaust, guides K-lined, Manley proflow stainless 1.94 intakes, 1.5 Manley exhaust. Pocket are cut for larger springs: Crane 1.420 dia dual springs PN#99893, 125# seat (1.812 installed height) and 325# open (1.272) Hardened guideplates. ARP rocker studs. The bowl has been reworked and stems contoured. The short radius has been blended and the intake ports expanded and matched to a Felpro 1205 (1.28 wide x 2.09 tall).
Intake... I dont know what I will use yet but the LT1 looks really good or the Stealth Ram.
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (MrJay)
"Budget" I found a Callies 3.875 for $600 and thought I'd put together a "budget 396". Found a 4bolt block for $400 and thought I was on a roll. Extra set of heads and intake $300 (rolling on). Then I thought the heads needed a full over with bigger valves $1200. Might as well get some good pistons, rods, and bearings $1500. Hey that new Dynaspark will help out $500. How about a Canton oil pan $200 (used). Might as well throw in anARP head stud set $118. Stan tells me I need an electric waterpump $220. Yea, that ATI dampner looks good $459. Sure, it's going to need some nice stuff for the exhaust, EM 1 3/4 coated headers $678, B&B 3inch with X-pipe $900. Machine work on the block $500. Man, those chrome valve covers will look nice $245. Almost forgot, cam, injectors, roller rockers, flex plate, tranny pan,copper header gaskets, plugs , wires, thermostat, lifters, pushrods, guide plates $1300. A little powdercoating $150. { I think the calculator jsut exploded}. Well, I think you get the idea. "Budget" Hopefully the :party: when it's in and running will make it worth while. :steering:
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (MrJay)
Ramrod92 I know that the small parts add up when you start to buy them, $10 here and $10 there.
Your engine looks really nice and it sounds like you are going to have strong one too, you have a lot of good part there some that I wish I had... :D
I think you will be happy when you start running it.
Your engine looks really nice and it sounds like you are going to have strong one too, you have a lot of good part there some that I wish I had... :D
I think you will be happy when you start running it.
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (MrJay)
Why did you powerder coat the lifter valley/timing chain area? is there some kind of performance advantage?
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (BluByU)
Chris, the valley and the front area are painted. The machine shop did that. I had the intake, waterpump housing and the timing cover pwodercoated. :steering:
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Re: My budget engine rebuild..... (MrJay)
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I don't see clearancing work. Not a stroker? What CID? You'll be happy with the cam. I had something very similar and it worked good for daily driver.
My new engine also had the lifter valley painted by the builder. Supposedly so the oil runs back to the pan quicker? I put a few hundred miles on it and took the intake back off and noticed the paint was wearing off. it's in the filter or running around the oil huh?
I have asked a few engine builders on this and either they are really for it or really against it. One of those heated debate things like which oil to use in a ZF6 or miniram or superram :crazy:
I don't see clearancing work. Not a stroker? What CID? You'll be happy with the cam. I had something very similar and it worked good for daily driver.
My new engine also had the lifter valley painted by the builder. Supposedly so the oil runs back to the pan quicker? I put a few hundred miles on it and took the intake back off and noticed the paint was wearing off. it's in the filter or running around the oil huh?
I have asked a few engine builders on this and either they are really for it or really against it. One of those heated debate things like which oil to use in a ZF6 or miniram or superram :crazy: