Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

What non-e cutout? Exhaust guy says these won't work

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-08-2016, 02:43 PM
  #1  
DrRaySomeDay
Racer
Thread Starter
 
DrRaySomeDay's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2015
Location: Owasso Oklahoma
Posts: 353
Received 39 Likes on 31 Posts
Default What non-e cutout? Exhaust guy says these won't work

Hey guys,

I can't afford headers or even a catback exhaust right now but still wanted to be able to crank up the exhaust volume for cruising around in the country. I know it's not a performance gain. I had a non-electric cutout on my LS1 Z28 before I redid the motor and exhaust and I thought it sounded great.

In addition to not-affording headers, I can't afford a set of dual-electric cutout openers. I was hoping to just install some manual cutouts for now and opt for electric openers when income allows. I don't mind leaving them open most of the time or having to raise the car to add/remove the plate.

I bough a pair of QTP 2.5" stainless steel cutouts. The exact ones that I bought can be seen by searching on Amazon for "QTP 10250 2.5" Stainless Steel Exhaust Cutout". I did not know if linking to them directly would violate forum rules, so that's why I didn't provide the link.

I brought them to my exhaust guy today to install and he looked at them and said they would not fit? He told me the only kind he's ever installed were side-opening electric cutouts and he installed them towards the 'loop near the back wheels'. Is he right that these will not fit? He said if he put them on, the 'cutout' opening would be facing down and scrape and that there was no way to install them with the opening facing out horizontal to the ground.

If he is correct, what non-electric cutouts can I buy to have installed on my car?
Old 01-08-2016, 02:44 PM
  #2  
DrRaySomeDay
Racer
Thread Starter
 
DrRaySomeDay's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2015
Location: Owasso Oklahoma
Posts: 353
Received 39 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

I will try to upload the picture of the style I got from Amazon, hopefully this works:
Old 01-08-2016, 02:51 PM
  #3  
1Willy1
Melting Slicks
 
1Willy1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 3,311
Received 381 Likes on 278 Posts
Default

I still don't understand the cut outs......

"gee theres a group of cool guys walking down the road, lemme open my cut out to impress them with the sound of my car, then ill turn it back off once theyre out of sight"

Id feel so ashamed of myself after a few days of that

Anyways when my car was stock and I couldn't find a deal on a used exhaust, I just drilled a few holes in the stock one, helped a little bit and it was free.

If you want a lot of sound just cut a larger hole
Old 01-08-2016, 02:53 PM
  #4  
1Willy1
Melting Slicks
 
1Willy1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 3,311
Received 381 Likes on 278 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DrRaySomeDay
I will try to upload the picture of the style I got from Amazon, hopefully this works:
A pair of those must of been $100 or more, theres a guy selling a set of borla straight pipes right now in the classifieds for $150

Try to return those man and just get a used exhaust set up

After install your gonna be in for $200-$300 for those things
Old 01-08-2016, 03:09 PM
  #5  
DrRaySomeDay
Racer
Thread Starter
 
DrRaySomeDay's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2015
Location: Owasso Oklahoma
Posts: 353
Received 39 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

I would like the ability to close them and have it sound stock during the week. I am a medical student and think it would look rather unprofessional to drive to school with straight pipes IMO, but I appreciate your second response in that you were actually offering up some advice.
I do plan on returning those. You were right, they were $100 right on the money. The install is going to be $60 if I can find a pair that fit.

If anyone knows which cutouts would fit, I appreciate your time in helping me out!
Old 01-08-2016, 04:12 PM
  #6  
1Willy1
Melting Slicks
 
1Willy1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 3,311
Received 381 Likes on 278 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DrRaySomeDay
I would like the ability to close them and have it sound stock during the week. I am a medical student and think it would look rather unprofessional to drive to school with straight pipes IMO, but I appreciate your second response in that you were actually offering up some advice.
I do plan on returning those. You were right, they were $100 right on the money. The install is going to be $60 if I can find a pair that fit.

If anyone knows which cutouts would fit, I appreciate your time in helping me out!
yea sorry I cant be much help in that respect

few guys here run cut outs, or used too , im sure they will chime in eventually
Old 01-08-2016, 05:57 PM
  #7  
sirdano
Drifting
 
sirdano's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2015
Location: Round Rock Texas
Posts: 1,529
Received 148 Likes on 132 Posts
Default

A muffler bypass is only 100 at a muffler shop.
The following users liked this post:
DrRaySomeDay (01-09-2016)
Old 01-09-2016, 01:52 AM
  #8  
tmatthews
Racer
 
tmatthews's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2010
Location: Winston-Salem NC
Posts: 251
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ed-review.html
The following users liked this post:
DrRaySomeDay (01-09-2016)
Old 01-09-2016, 10:14 AM
  #9  
CactusCat
Melting Slicks
 
CactusCat's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2009
Location: Edmond OK
Posts: 2,915
Received 209 Likes on 156 Posts

Default

DrRay, it's pretty tight underneath a Vette. They're very low to the ground and exhaust tunnel is full (mid pipe). Just take a look underneath and you'll see for yourself. Your exhaust guy is correct in stating that the only place to put that extra pipe (the cutout with the plate on it) is pointing down because there's no other place to put it and with the car so low, it will scrape. There might be a possibility to install it on the catback right where it attaches to the mid pipe but I'd have to see the size of this part you bought... GL with this item.
The following users liked this post:
DrRaySomeDay (01-09-2016)
Old 01-09-2016, 10:19 AM
  #10  
pups
Advanced
 
pups's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Posts: 57
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DrRaySomeDay
I would like the ability to close them and have it sound stock during the week. I am a medical student and think it would look rather unprofessional to drive to school with straight pipes IMO
I think that may be true if you were to roll up in a Civic with straight pipes, but straight pipes on a Corvette sounds awesome. (or muffler delete, if you want to sound fancy)

I got mine done for $160 with dual tips
Name:  uXZxI6Q.jpg
Views: 130
Size:  3.20 MB
The following users liked this post:
DrRaySomeDay (01-09-2016)
Old 01-09-2016, 07:32 PM
  #11  
El original
Melting Slicks
 
El original's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2008
Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada
Posts: 3,146
Received 201 Likes on 168 Posts

Default

I would be concerned with the carbon monoxide coming into the cab...call me old school but it doesn't get any less dangerous with age.
Old 01-09-2016, 08:04 PM
  #12  
DrRaySomeDay
Racer
Thread Starter
 
DrRaySomeDay's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2015
Location: Owasso Oklahoma
Posts: 353
Received 39 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

I have come across those muffler bypass's in my searches and they look like a good option. After listening to some video clips on Youtube, they don't really sound to extreme either. It's not like I am cruising in or out of my school's parking lot at WOT.

Is a muffler bypass something an exhaust shop should be able to fabricate on their own, or is there a kit I would be expected to supply them with?

If they could fab it up on there own, I would still appreciate any links to the muffler bypass kits that are available. I wouldn't mind saving my guys any potential headaches. I appreciate all the helpful replies to this rather basic post too, thank you everyone!
Old 01-09-2016, 08:51 PM
  #13  
Corvette#2
Safety Car

 
Corvette#2's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2015
Location: Rocky Mountains
Posts: 3,830
Received 394 Likes on 247 Posts
Default

Here's my Electric QTP cutouts. One of the motors died in the open position. Not expensive to fix but I haven't bothered. I leave them permanently open.






Originally Posted by DrRaySomeDay
I have come across those muffler bypass's in my searches and they look like a good option. After listening to some video clips on Youtube, they don't really sound to extreme either. It's not like I am cruising in or out of my school's parking lot at WOT.
Yeah if the car is stock, it won't be extreme at all. It's not that loud considering the mufflers are totally bypassed. The sound is definitely better than stock. But when I get the spare money, I would still like a proper cat back system, probably Borla or Billy Boat.
Old 01-09-2016, 10:32 PM
  #14  
BOTYNV1
Team Owner
 
BOTYNV1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2006
Location: Title town, Champs live here.
Posts: 65,010
Received 133 Likes on 78 Posts
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19


Default

Originally Posted by 1Willy1
A pair of those must of been $100 or more, theres a guy selling a set of borla straight pipes right now in the classifieds for $150
not much cash for a decent set-up.
Old 01-10-2016, 01:05 AM
  #15  
Not4spd
Melting Slicks
 
Not4spd's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2008
Location: Garland TX
Posts: 2,185
Received 630 Likes on 394 Posts

Default

That is the link to my thread. Cutouts are still on and I still enjoy them and continually get compliments. They have held up fine for being a dirt cheap exhaust mod.
Old 01-10-2016, 05:49 PM
  #16  
Patches
Team Owner
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Patches's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2001
Location: Lake Elsinore, CA
Posts: 23,283
Received 889 Likes on 587 Posts

Default

I have a set of those "Y" cutouts that came with my FLP headers many years ago and I placed them up against the exhaust in the wider section of the exhaust tunnel where the cats sit and they would not fit without hanging down low - they would scrape big time. I ended up installing a set of QTP cutouts near the tranny and they worked great. I ran them open most f the time, even with heads/cam/headers as the C5 sounds great with cutouts in that configuration.







Old 01-10-2016, 09:30 PM
  #17  
Vetteman Jack
Administrator

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2001
Location: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
Posts: 343,029
Received 19,307 Likes on 13,978 Posts
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19-
'20-'21-'22-'23-'24
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran


Default

Until you can afford an electric cutout setup, I would agree that the muffler bypass mod sounds like the best option. Good luck in whatever you do.

Get notified of new replies

To What non-e cutout? Exhaust guy says these won't work

Old 01-11-2016, 01:06 PM
  #18  
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Bill Curlee's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 1999
Location: Anthony TX
Posts: 32,736
Received 2,180 Likes on 1,583 Posts
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08

Default

Have you ever ridden INSIDE a C5 or C6 when it was running on STRAIGHT PIPES?

Yes,,, Its LOUD. We all like loud BUT,,,,,, You also have to deal with in cabin RESONANCE! The ear splitting resonance will get on your nerves really fast. You cant listen to the radio, hold a conversation or find women who will put up with it. Its just PLAIN NASTY.

The exhaust note is not only LOUD but its GUTTERAL and crude! Its not something that sounds good.

If you want to test it out temporarily, Unbolt the midpipe from the over the axel pipe. Find some LONGER bolts at Home depot and put some metal spacers (large nuts) between the two flanges and tighten the bolts. You will have a 3/4" - 1" space between the two pipe flanges and PLENTY of area where the NOISE will come out.

NOTE. DO NOT drive like this for an extended period of time because the exhaust is very close to the fuel tanks.

You will see EXACTLY what OPEN pipes sound like!

I bet ya wont want them as bad as you did before the experiment!

BC

Last edited by Bill Curlee; 01-11-2016 at 01:07 PM.
Old 01-11-2016, 02:56 PM
  #19  
Shakeydeal
Melting Slicks
 
Shakeydeal's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,901
Received 304 Likes on 254 Posts
Default

I agree with Bill. It's not likely to be a pleasant sound. If it were me, I would just live with it and save my pennies for a real catback exhaust in the future.

Shakey
Old 01-11-2016, 05:27 PM
  #20  
Patches
Team Owner
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Patches's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2001
Location: Lake Elsinore, CA
Posts: 23,283
Received 889 Likes on 587 Posts

Default

As long as a set of cats is in place, it should sound great. My setup was Vararam/heads/cam/headers/hi-flow cats and x-pipe before the cutouts and it sounded sweet. No resonance whatsoever, believe it or not. In fact, I had no cutouts with this setup but with a set of Borla 2-tip Stingers and the drone was so bad it would make me naseous within 30 minutes - I had to replace them with Ti's to be able to drive the car again. But with cutouts open, I could drive it for hours, no problem. It really depends on the setup.


Quick Reply: What non-e cutout? Exhaust guy says these won't work



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:55 PM.