oldmobile sugar
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oldmobile sugar
While reading the Wikipedia entry for the C5 Corvette I came across this text:
n July 2003, the Oldsmobile Sugar was introduced privately at the Bowling Green Assembly Plant. Despite being based on the C5 Corvette, it was intended to be a luxury super grand tourer, looked completely different and featured a 6.5 L (394 cu in) twin-turbo Rocket V8 producing 590 hp (598 PS; 440 kW) and 800 lb·ft (1,085 N·m), mated to a Powerglide transmission. It is also heavier with a curb weight of 3,850 lb (1,746 kg). Auto Bild estimated a 0–62 mph (0–100 km/h) time of 4.8 seconds and a top speed of 260 mph (418 km/h).[11] Because of its very low drag coefficient of 0.145, it has a very high top speed for its horsepower and weight.
The Sugar was originally Oldsmobile's plan to building a luxurious two-seat grand touring supercar for the 2005 model year. The project was canceled because GM failed to spend $600 trillion to place the Sugar into production because the engine failed to meet emission standards. The assembly plant switched Corvette production from C5 to C6 form. As a result, GM only built three Sugars through January 2004 and the Oldsmobile division was discontinued.Seem like an expensive production budget. I wonder what the car would have cost?
n July 2003, the Oldsmobile Sugar was introduced privately at the Bowling Green Assembly Plant. Despite being based on the C5 Corvette, it was intended to be a luxury super grand tourer, looked completely different and featured a 6.5 L (394 cu in) twin-turbo Rocket V8 producing 590 hp (598 PS; 440 kW) and 800 lb·ft (1,085 N·m), mated to a Powerglide transmission. It is also heavier with a curb weight of 3,850 lb (1,746 kg). Auto Bild estimated a 0–62 mph (0–100 km/h) time of 4.8 seconds and a top speed of 260 mph (418 km/h).[11] Because of its very low drag coefficient of 0.145, it has a very high top speed for its horsepower and weight.
The Sugar was originally Oldsmobile's plan to building a luxurious two-seat grand touring supercar for the 2005 model year. The project was canceled because GM failed to spend $600 trillion to place the Sugar into production because the engine failed to meet emission standards. The assembly plant switched Corvette production from C5 to C6 form. As a result, GM only built three Sugars through January 2004 and the Oldsmobile division was discontinued.
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While reading the Wikipedia entry for the C5 Corvette I came across this text:
n July 2003, the Oldsmobile Sugar was introduced privately at the Bowling Green Assembly Plant. Despite being based on the C5 Corvette, it was intended to be a luxury super grand tourer, looked completely different and featured a 6.5 L (394 cu in) twin-turbo Rocket V8 producing 590 hp (598 PS; 440 kW) and 800 lb·ft (1,085 N·m), mated to a Powerglide transmission. It is also heavier with a curb weight of 3,850 lb (1,746 kg). Auto Bild estimated a 0–62 mph (0–100 km/h) time of 4.8 seconds and a top speed of 260 mph (418 km/h).[11] Because of its very low drag coefficient of 0.145, it has a very high top speed for its horsepower and weight.
The Sugar was originally Oldsmobile's plan to building a luxurious two-seat grand touring supercar for the 2005 model year. The project was canceled because GM failed to spend $600 trillion to place the Sugar into production because the engine failed to meet emission standards. The assembly plant switched Corvette production from C5 to C6 form. As a result, GM only built three Sugars through January 2004 and the Oldsmobile division was discontinued.Seem like an expensive production budget. I wonder what the car would have cost?
n July 2003, the Oldsmobile Sugar was introduced privately at the Bowling Green Assembly Plant. Despite being based on the C5 Corvette, it was intended to be a luxury super grand tourer, looked completely different and featured a 6.5 L (394 cu in) twin-turbo Rocket V8 producing 590 hp (598 PS; 440 kW) and 800 lb·ft (1,085 N·m), mated to a Powerglide transmission. It is also heavier with a curb weight of 3,850 lb (1,746 kg). Auto Bild estimated a 0–62 mph (0–100 km/h) time of 4.8 seconds and a top speed of 260 mph (418 km/h).[11] Because of its very low drag coefficient of 0.145, it has a very high top speed for its horsepower and weight.
The Sugar was originally Oldsmobile's plan to building a luxurious two-seat grand touring supercar for the 2005 model year. The project was canceled because GM failed to spend $600 trillion to place the Sugar into production because the engine failed to meet emission standards. The assembly plant switched Corvette production from C5 to C6 form. As a result, GM only built three Sugars through January 2004 and the Oldsmobile division was discontinued.
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Never heard of it before, but with those specs, you can bet it would have cost a fortune.
#5
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That's the F-88 concept car from the early 50's...
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/04/...obile-forever/
#10
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Definite BS. The specs are just fiction. The only "cars" to claim a drag co-eficient around the quoted .145 are the super streamline solar challenge vehicles that race across Australia among other places. And they not exactly practical:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/world-solar...photos-1524881
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/world-solar...photos-1524881
#13
Melting Slicks
Not BS.. its really there in Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevro...ugar_prototype
Oops, didn't know anyone could edit Wikipedia.... My bad. Definitely
I am so glad I finally got to use that BS icon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevro...ugar_prototype
Oops, didn't know anyone could edit Wikipedia.... My bad. Definitely
I am so glad I finally got to use that BS icon
Last edited by CactusCat; 04-17-2016 at 09:48 PM.
#14
Le Mans Master
Not BS.. its really there in Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevro...ugar_prototype
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevro...ugar_prototype
#15
Melting Slicks
Edited. Isn't $600 Trillion how much our current Prez has spent? Maybe it was a typo, hit the T instead of the B or M....
Last edited by CactusCat; 04-17-2016 at 09:49 PM.
#16
Melting Slicks
$600,000,000,000,000 if they built 10 thousand of them they would need to sell them for 60 billion each to break even.
That and the power glide were pretty big give aways
But maybe they would build 100,000 of them. It looks pretty sweet!
Only $6 billion each.
Now if I could only calculate how much more premium is over regular.
That and the power glide were pretty big give aways
But maybe they would build 100,000 of them. It looks pretty sweet!
Only $6 billion each.
Now if I could only calculate how much more premium is over regular.
Last edited by Forcedvert; 04-17-2016 at 10:10 PM.
#17
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#18
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In my mind, my Olds can run 260 mph with a powerglide and 394. Unfortunately, the drum brakes, bias ply tires and sway bars just don't keep up. Never mind the wind drag with that high windshield. And there are too many curves on the Blue Ridge Parkway to maintain speed.
Oh well, it could be worse. I could be driving a Edsel.
Oh well, it could be worse. I could be driving a Edsel.
#19
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Abe Lincoln's famous quote about internet accuracy sure rings true in this instance.
I would have kept the Olds name, but people aren't sentimental about stuff that can't generate cash in the marketplace. I once asked a guy with a curved dash olds about the small brass manifold mounted in the center of the dash. Said that was his oiling system, it was a total loss system, and the flow was adjusted with the thumbscrew like valves .
He then drove away, leaving thin streams of oil in the dirt behind him. ONe of the things you don't get at a static car show.
I would have kept the Olds name, but people aren't sentimental about stuff that can't generate cash in the marketplace. I once asked a guy with a curved dash olds about the small brass manifold mounted in the center of the dash. Said that was his oiling system, it was a total loss system, and the flow was adjusted with the thumbscrew like valves .
He then drove away, leaving thin streams of oil in the dirt behind him. ONe of the things you don't get at a static car show.