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Old 01-04-2007, 08:14 PM
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For the past several days I have been hearing a squeak coming from what I thought was a pulley bearing going out.

Finally tracked it down tonight to the area were the torque tube bolts to the engine. I can tell for sure exactly where it is though. It gets louder when hot and gets even louder when RPMs drop like when stopping at a stop sign for about a second or two.

At this point I'm guessing the problem is the bearing at the front of the torque tube. Anyone had something like this happen? I guess I have no choice but to pull the torque tube out and try to find something damaged, unless someone has another idea.

Also, anyone have a good sources for the bearings in the torque tube, If I remember right GM doesn't sell the bearings short of buying a whole new torque tube.

I have had the torque tube apart in the past to install a solid rear coupler..... I can't remember now if the bearing was pressed in to the housing or on the shaft.


Turns out that Randy@DRM had the answer to my squeak. I reinstalled my breather and the squeak went away. I never would have thought that excess crank case vacuum could cause a squeak that sounds like a bearing going out. A whistling main seal.....

Last edited by Mike04; 01-07-2007 at 08:52 AM. Reason: Squeak fixed!
Old 01-04-2007, 09:30 PM
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I had one on a customer car that did the same thing, replaced the bearing and the squeal was gone
Old 01-04-2007, 09:43 PM
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What catch can do you have??? I think maybe something fishing is going on. If you have a stock breather system then it's the tube front bearing.

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Originally Posted by Randy@DRM
What catch can do you have??? I think maybe something fishing is going on. If you have a stock breather system then it's the tube front bearing.

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Not sure I understand what you are saying.... I don't have a catch can. I do have an ECS breather. Torque tube and catch can/ breather?
Old 01-04-2007, 10:24 PM
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The rear seal leaking can sound like a bearing going bad. If the motor isn't breathing right this will occur. Drysump motors are known for this, because they have a pull on them all the time. When you lift off the gas there is a ton of vacaum. And it could be whisling your rear main seal.

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could be worse

C5R motor, F1R fed; pics from one of Slowhawks winter projects
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If you're talking about the rubber couplers, you can order couplers through BMW, I believe you want to ask for the 318 ones.
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Originally Posted by Steve@CTCorvette
could be worse

C5R motor, F1R fed; pics from one of Slowhawks winter projects
That is serious carnage...
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Originally Posted by tstar
If you're talking about the rubber couplers, you can order couplers through BMW, I believe you want to ask for the 318 ones.
I think my problem is going to be with the bearing at the front of the torque tube. I just need to check into how hard it is to track them down.
Old 01-05-2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve@CTCorvette
could be worse

C5R motor, F1R fed; pics from one of Slowhawks winter projects
that is how mine was. I was at VIR 13 hour trip one way and mine failed. I heard a clunking as I came off track. Packed it away for winter. Then in the spring I remember the noise and found the same as you have in the pictures. To make an event I had to next day a torque tube. While I was in there I next day shipped LGM headers and a clutch I spent a ton on shipping. Mine was the smaller 99 version and it had about 50,000 on it.
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Originally Posted by Randy@DRM
The rear seal leaking can sound like a bearing going bad. If the motor isn't breathing right this will occur. Drysump motors are known for this, because they have a pull on them all the time. When you lift off the gas there is a ton of vacaum. And it could be whisling your rear main seal.

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OK, that makes sense now. I have actually ran the engine with the stock oil cap on instead of the ECS breather cap do to another mod in work. I have also noticed my vacuum gauge at 20lbs at idle when it is usually a few lbs less with the breather installed. You have given me hope that this is my problem. I can't wait to get home and try it.
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Originally Posted by Mike04
I think my problem is going to be with the bearing at the front of the torque tube. I just need to check into how hard it is to track them down.
Gm sells the bearings they do not sell the couplers
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Problem fixed. Check original post for edit

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