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Old 09-29-2003, 08:38 PM
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Default How much does temperature affect H.P?

It's starting to cool off up here and my car feels like it's just ripping lately! :steering: Feels like an extra 20 horse. :reddevil I love it! Traction's a problem on the cold asphalt though.
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (lager99)

You are probably correct. On a car like our C5's the ambient temperature can pretty easily swing the rwhp by 30. I have personally seen a 2 MPH difference in the quarter mile and hour trap speed just from 90 degrees to 60 degrees.
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Wow!! :eek: That's huge! I'd like to dyno it at these temps. :thumbs:
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (lager99)

There is a member on this forum who is in Alaska and drove his Vette in something like -20 degree temperatures! He said it was like his stock C5 was like a Z06! I have driven my modded Vette in 20 degree clear cold temperatures, and it was like a different car!
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (lager99)

you get a 1% increase in HP for every 10 degrees you lower the intake air temp. :chevy
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (lager99)

10 degrees cooler (intake temp) will gain you about 1% horse power


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Old 09-29-2003, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (clem zahrobsky)

you get a 1% increase in HP for every 10 degrees you lower the intake air temp. :chevy
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Old 09-29-2003, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (Evil-Twin)

10 degrees cooler (intake temp) will gain you about 1 horse power
you sure about that?
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Those #'s conflict each other. :skep:
Old 09-29-2003, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (lager99)

I've heard that every ten degree drop is a 3% dain in horsepower. If you do the math this turns out to just over a 1 horsepower gain for every 1 degree drop in temperature on a stock ls1.
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (lager99)

Assuming the pressure stays the same...
Correction factor (Cf)
Temperute in Celsius(Tc)

Cf=1.18((Tc+273/298)^0.5)-0.18

So at 25 degrees C, the CF is 1 (STP or around room temp)
http://wahiduddin.net/calc/cf.htm

So its ~1.11% hp per 10degrees F temp change (no humidity or pressure changes)


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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (Midwayman)

Assuming the pressure stays the same...
Correction factor (Cf)
Temperute in Celsius(Tc)

Cf=1.18((Tc+273/298)^0.5)-0.18

So at 25 degrees C, the CF is 1 (STP or around room temp)
http://wahiduddin.net/calc/cf.htm

So its ~1.11% hp per 10degrees F temp change (no humidity or pressure changes)


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I would go with that. :yesnod: Im my RWHP is 387 and morning temp is 30 degrees F than it would be a 5.55% increase, 408 RWHP. 21 ponies. :thumbs: Pretty close guess. :cheers:
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (lager99)

My old vert would turn 13 flat in the middle of the FL summer and on a nice cold day this past Jan at Gainesville Raceway she turnd a 12.47 :eek: :D

So my answer is about 1/2 second depending on the temp swing :)
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (jschindler)

If this is true, than does anyone know at what temp. the factory quotes their hp figure ?
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (beckel)

SAE standard is 77 degrees. race shops use 60 degrees
Old 09-30-2003, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (beckel)

One would assume the factory is using SAE corrected numbers, but you never know....
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Default Re: How much does temperature affect H.P? (Midwayman)

A couple of years ago when tuners were working on the 160 degree stats etc one of them found that a stock ls1 produced max power at 178 degrees on the dyno, he also stated that at 200 degrees it cost about 15 rwhp. FWIW

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