stilambo07

So I just came back from OcMd as there was a cruise weekend. And I realized the aftermarket cam is very mild that the prior owner put in. Time to change it up. I really like that raw sound but I know if you go too aggressive it will be a pain to drive. What are some options of taking it to the point of still driveable but you get that great tone!! It's going in to get tuned and I want to do it right the first time!!!

Can any be added to this thread since it is older?
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c5-z06-discussion/2235257-what-s-the-best-camshaft-for-my-z06-2.html

And can I go aggressive to wild?

I'm full bolt ons

racebum

driveable is a subjective term

what you want the car to do would be the first question

commuter? race car? max hp?

what's the end goal?

stilambo07

The car is going to be driven. When it's not raining I will be driving it. Obviously I want the max hp I can get out of it. If I race it on a track it will be dragstrip once or twice a year.

racebum

what is max hp? 400-500-600-700+

all require a different approach, how long you want the engine to live is another concern.

the more aggressive cams get the harder they are on the valvetrain and the more rpm they typically spin, this shortens engine life

there are a lot of dyno tested pre made combos to research. if you're staying on 200utqg or harder street tires 400 at the wheels would be as high as i would personally want. 450max if you can live without using 1st gear much. above this it starts slowing the car down. you have no traction and it becomes harder to manage. driveline upgrades start being a concern. lot happens

the texas speed 228R cam is probably one of the most popular street/strip cams on the market, makes great power, easy to setup. will hit that 4 something at the wheels hp range

stilambo07

Im at 400 to the wheels now with the current mild cam. The car was tuned by cartek. Gonna get returned w new cam...would like to get to the upper 400s. Running nitto invos on the rear. Currently running 4.10 gears. Longevity is important factor.

BLEKVET

You don't have to go max effort to get power and awesome lope. It sounds like you want lope as a priority - that mean, nasty sound - while still making good power, maintain driveability, and not have to change valve springs every weekend.

I'm running a grind that pretty much meets all of the above. You will still need dual springs.

I'm running Comp Cams at 227/231 .615/.617 and 114+2 LSA

This cam "rocks the boat" at idle, but you can tune lope in and out to some degree - depends on what you want.

My LS6 is making 490 to the wheels naturally aspirated (H/C/I).

Good luck !

racebum

this is an unusable combo

an invo has no hope in hell of using high 4s if you're actually wanting to be fast, you have no traction in 1st and little in 2nd. will also be sketchy at high speed

upper 4s and higher spring rates with more rebound and a toyo r888 would work, may need a bit more friction mu on the brake pads too but it could work.

invos are just silly at that power, what's the point? that tire in in trouble 100hp under that

racebum

why would you put such a mild LSA if you wanted lope? 114+2 is going to create a lot of dynamic compression with so little overlap

just don't understand the reasoning when 112 would bleed off some of the compression since i would imagine you would have an engine around 11:1 with that cam and or a larger displacement along with some monster heads . the increased overlap at 112 would also create more lope if someone wanted a dino hotrod sound

stilambo07

Yes yes!!! Thank you. This is the exact direction I want to head. I currently have very little lope at idle and I want the rock the boat. Ha. You guys are really helping out I appreciate it. Where is the best place to get this or similar cam....marylandspeed?

Cheesecake 07

I daily drove a 232/240 .595/.608 on a 112. Idle was NASTY and shook the car. Loved it. Absolutely ripped to the 6800 shift point. Im going a little more aggressive this time around, as the car is down for a few weeks.

Research Tony Mamo@ Mamo Motorsports, Ed Curtis @Flowtech Induction, Brian Tooley @ Brian Tooley Racing or Martin@Tick for a cam. Either of those guys can get you squared away with exactly what your looking for

zeevette

I don't see any mention of your heads. Also, what do you consider "full bolt-ons"? To achieve high 400s NA takes a very optimized combination, and drivetrain mods for reliability. Invos are indeed ice skates for drag racing. I've got 325 rears, and it's basically a drift car. (not intentionally)

racebum

if you want to shake the car you want this, not a 114+2 LSA

that's a big cam though and you will most likely want to spin higher than the 6500 factory rev limit, 6800 red with a 6400-6500 shift would probably be a good place to start. cam will also want very free flowing heads

Tony @ Mamo Motorsports

OP.....what are the cam specs your driving now and what heads are on the car.

A cam swap isnt the magic ticket to high 400's at the wheels. You need a very good set of heads, ported FAST.....good valvetrain set-up with excellent valve control etc.

Also big cams gain you a little upstairs but come with alot of sacrifice. Once your past mid/high 220's in a 346 combo you are entering the point of diminishing returns and you trade alot to gain a little.....know that going in but there are other options and ways to achieve what your after.

Tell us more about your current combo.....I think that's helpful and a good place to start!

-Tony

PS.....You also deal with marginal piston to valve clearance with larger cams and milled heads....another problem of heading down that road.

Timmcc

I'm ready for heads and intake after I installed a Tick SNS Torquemax Stage 3. With 1 7/8" Long tubesand 3" off road x pipe I put down a nice 447 rwhp and 406 rwtq. Sounds badass, and in my opinion is very drivable. Even my almost 70 year old dad had no problem driving it in traffic. He loved it lol.

racebum

for sure

but

quite a few of these threads keep talking about lope, not what is a fast engine or one that drives pleasant

BLEKVET

Reach out or search specs by Spinmonster. Like I said, you don't need a max effort cam to get what you want. Spinmonster will be the first to tell you that. Probably Mamo too.

Find a tuner you trust. Then go.

stilambo07

Tony

These are the specs I found on the build.

zdeckich

Im running the 21st CMC 600 cam its 238/240 605/609 112lsa and has a great lope. With just bolt ones and full exhaust I made 438rwhp and 409rwtq. And my opinion it is very drivable, drove it everyday until a bought a DD. Soon I want to do heads and maybe a procharger.

BLEKVET

Op, by the way. Did I tell you my cam and heads were spec'd by Tony Mamo ? My LS6 is packaged just as described above. 490 at the wheels. It's one bad 346 cu screamer.

Good luck !!!!

neutron82

that's a hefty cam for boost, it would work just may not be optimal... people make good power with boost on the factory 02-04 z06 cam and when swapped out they generally aren't huge in comparison to n/a cams that make big power