Friend upgrades to a Z06 and gets smoked by Subaru - at the track
08-11-2007, 11:07 PM
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Friend upgrades to a Z06 and gets smoked by Subaru - at the track
A friend traded in his 2003 SLK mercedes for a nice 2007 Z06. This was about 2 months ago. He called me today to say that he is at some track in Ohio and was racing a modded Subaru WRX STI. On a 1/4 mile, the Subaru SMOKED him. Needless to say, it humbled him. He told me he is off to a mod shop.
I was thinking about that.
No matter what we have, there is someone always a lot faster.
I was thinking about that.
No matter what we have, there is someone always a lot faster.
08-11-2007, 11:08 PM
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proves you can make anything fast....mods on Sub??
08-11-2007, 11:12 PM
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Having owned an STI very recently....I can say they are crazy little sleepers. I thoroughly enjoyed mine and I got endless pleasure out of embarrassing high dollar GT's on road courses or windy back roads that had less then glassy smooth pavement.
Its one of the ultimate Jeckyl and Hyde cars. Great warning. If and when I pick up a Z, I will always remember to be humble when I see a rally blue flash sneeking iup on me on my favorite back roads remembering the Z just wont stick and those cars are glued to the ground no matter what.
Its one of the ultimate Jeckyl and Hyde cars. Great warning. If and when I pick up a Z, I will always remember to be humble when I see a rally blue flash sneeking iup on me on my favorite back roads remembering the Z just wont stick and those cars are glued to the ground no matter what.
08-12-2007, 12:23 AM
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So I don't stand a chance with my stock 07 M6 3LT F55 coupe against these things for a little stoplight fun? Ah well.
I know on paper they look pretty bad, but they are like mid 30s in price. So with 15 grand in mods, what can one of these do?
Not like I'd ever consider one - case and point. Roll ANY C6 and ANY subie WRX STI through any crowd, and only the young guys even notice the subie.
To all the rest of you non Z06ers... remember, the C6 is so much more about attitude than anything else. NO other car, and I mean NO with font size 80, packs as much HP, fun, handling AND attitude into it as the C6. For all I care China can roll out a supercharged Chery that can smoke us, but it will never have the attitude a C6 does. Attitude rocks.
I know on paper they look pretty bad, but they are like mid 30s in price. So with 15 grand in mods, what can one of these do?
Not like I'd ever consider one - case and point. Roll ANY C6 and ANY subie WRX STI through any crowd, and only the young guys even notice the subie.
To all the rest of you non Z06ers... remember, the C6 is so much more about attitude than anything else. NO other car, and I mean NO with font size 80, packs as much HP, fun, handling AND attitude into it as the C6. For all I care China can roll out a supercharged Chery that can smoke us, but it will never have the attitude a C6 does. Attitude rocks.
08-12-2007, 12:26 AM
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A friend traded in his 2003 SLK mercedes for a nice 2007 Z06. This was about 2 months ago. He called me today to say that he is at some track in Ohio and was racing a modded Subaru WRX STI. On a 1/4 mile, the Subaru SMOKED him. Needless to say, it humbled him. He told me he is off to a mod shop.
I was thinking about that.
No matter what we have, there is someone always a lot faster.
I was thinking about that.
No matter what we have, there is someone always a lot faster.
08-12-2007, 12:28 AM
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So I don't stand a chance with my stock 07 M6 3LT F55 coupe against these things for a little stoplight fun? Ah well.
I know on paper they look pretty bad, but they are like mid 30s in price. So with 15 grand in mods, what can one of these do?
Not like I'd ever consider one - case and point. Roll ANY C6 and ANY subie WRX STI through any crowd, and only the young guys even notice the subie.
To all the rest of you non Z06ers... remember, the C6 is so much more about attitude than anything else. NO other car, and I mean NO with font size 80, packs as much HP, fun, handling AND attitude into it as the C6. For all I care China can roll out a supercharged Chery that can smoke us, but it will never have the attitude a C6 does. Attitude rocks.
I know on paper they look pretty bad, but they are like mid 30s in price. So with 15 grand in mods, what can one of these do?
Not like I'd ever consider one - case and point. Roll ANY C6 and ANY subie WRX STI through any crowd, and only the young guys even notice the subie.
To all the rest of you non Z06ers... remember, the C6 is so much more about attitude than anything else. NO other car, and I mean NO with font size 80, packs as much HP, fun, handling AND attitude into it as the C6. For all I care China can roll out a supercharged Chery that can smoke us, but it will never have the attitude a C6 does. Attitude rocks.
I'd much rather the C6, but I got alot of flack for "mid-life crisis" "old man car" etc from my younger friends. They don't get it yet. But once they grow out of the boy racer, they will look for a more refined sports car.
08-12-2007, 12:34 AM
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To most younger folks, the STi and EVO's are THE car to own and have alot more attitude and cool factor.
I'd much rather the C6, but I got alot of flack for "mid-life crisis" "old man car" etc from my younger friends. They don't get it yet. But once they grow out of the boy racer, they will look for a more refined sports car.
I'd much rather the C6, but I got alot of flack for "mid-life crisis" "old man car" etc from my younger friends. They don't get it yet. But once they grow out of the boy racer, they will look for a more refined sports car.
Don't get me wrong, I have tremendous respect for subies... my wife drive a Forester Turbo M5, and talk about sleeper! i just get no respect when I'm in it. Its the Rodney Dangerfield of cars. You have to prove it first!
08-12-2007, 12:56 AM
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Like any forum, there will naturatally be bias. At the end of the day it comes down to hypers point....you shouldn't make bias value judgements based on whats in your garage (whichever camp your in) as there is more to it then your view of the situation. There is more than one one school of thought about how to go fast and groups that are passionate about them.
No need to take offense to the original post as if was a knock on the vette (which it is clearly not). Yes, more than once has a modified car kicked a well driven hyper expensive cars butt. Its physics gents, not an attack on General Motors best..
Having had both these, there is no way you can say one is superior to the other if you are an enthusiast. They are to different and have different characteristics that the other can not match.
Enjoy what you have is the message, but just because something is affordably priced does not make it less.
Look at it another way...on the Ferrrari 599 GTB forum the Z06 is no doubt worse than the Suby is on the vette forum. Cheap, unrefined, and just not in the same blue blood club. But that doesnt lessen that crappy Z06's grin factor even though the 599 boys look down their nose at us poor folks that cant manage more than one of them.
I invite those that are quick to criticize either to drive one in its element. Its easy to malign something you have not actually tried. Afterward you may just find yourself grinning as you enjoy what it had to offer and its differences. Always keep an open mind.
No need to take offense to the original post as if was a knock on the vette (which it is clearly not). Yes, more than once has a modified car kicked a well driven hyper expensive cars butt. Its physics gents, not an attack on General Motors best..
Having had both these, there is no way you can say one is superior to the other if you are an enthusiast. They are to different and have different characteristics that the other can not match.
Enjoy what you have is the message, but just because something is affordably priced does not make it less.
Look at it another way...on the Ferrrari 599 GTB forum the Z06 is no doubt worse than the Suby is on the vette forum. Cheap, unrefined, and just not in the same blue blood club. But that doesnt lessen that crappy Z06's grin factor even though the 599 boys look down their nose at us poor folks that cant manage more than one of them.
I invite those that are quick to criticize either to drive one in its element. Its easy to malign something you have not actually tried. Afterward you may just find yourself grinning as you enjoy what it had to offer and its differences. Always keep an open mind.
08-12-2007, 01:46 AM
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To most younger folks, the STi and EVO's are THE car to own and have alot more attitude and cool factor.
I'd much rather the C6, but I got alot of flack for "mid-life crisis" "old man car" etc from my younger friends. They don't get it yet. But once they grow out of the boy racer, they will look for a more refined sports car.
I'd much rather the C6, but I got alot of flack for "mid-life crisis" "old man car" etc from my younger friends. They don't get it yet. But once they grow out of the boy racer, they will look for a more refined sports car.
08-12-2007, 01:51 AM
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Surprised I am still here to sound like my father 
08-12-2007, 01:57 AM
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I don't know where you're from or who you're friends with, but I'm 23 and nobody I know thinks an STi or Evo is cooler than a Vette. STis and Evos are the new Mustangs and Camaros, they're cars that are (relatively) cheap, unrefined, and can be made extremely fast with some mods. They're still a class below the Vette. The only reason young guys might seem to be interested in STis or Evos more than Corvettes is because most of them can't afford a Vette
08-12-2007, 02:02 AM
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Better deal? I dont know if folk get there funds from their money tree int he back yard, but for 32K, the STI is a smokin deal. And if someone likens it to a Forester as they both wear Suby badges...well, the cobolt also has chevy emblems, but I dont think it is the measure for a Z06 simple because they are made by the same manufacturer.
If anyone sole reason to buy a vehicle is to be noticed in crowds....well....
How much does a Enzo cost again?? Oh....this must be a price of admission question, no? I'd say the Enzo rollin next to the Z06 would pretty much render the Z as near to invisible as possible. Just an example of relativity that does not detract from eithers ability.
I'd be thrilled to have any of em. They all rock in the own right and its just nice to have choices.
If anyone sole reason to buy a vehicle is to be noticed in crowds....well....
How much does a Enzo cost again?? Oh....this must be a price of admission question, no? I'd say the Enzo rollin next to the Z06 would pretty much render the Z as near to invisible as possible. Just an example of relativity that does not detract from eithers ability.
I'd be thrilled to have any of em. They all rock in the own right and its just nice to have choices.
08-12-2007, 02:16 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those rice rockets! Four doors and a goofy wing? When it's all said and done, it's just a fast, ugly import!
I have been humbled by several Supra's.......yep, always something faster!
I have been humbled by several Supra's.......yep, always something faster!