NEO1

http://jobbersworld.com/valvolineq&Apage1.htm

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...309815&fpart=1

Wow, this is truly unbelievable.

AORoads

Looking at jobber's world, that is a Valvoline letterhead. This isn't conclusive to me by any means. Is it to you?

VET4LES

mcandrew67

All competitors bad mouth the others, just like politicians running for office. Take it for what its worth from the source.

Raazor

http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html

These guys tested Mobil 1 to 18,000 miles without needing an oil change and only needing ONE filter change at 12,000.

Good reading. They tested the oil at 1,000 mile intervals.

Sherman Fretwell

If that were true the roads would be littered with GM engine parts. GM would also be all over this like stink on Shinola for warranty purposes.

not08crmanymore

Yea,GM uses crap oil in the cars so on top of everything else they can pay to fix our motors...It's a VALVOLINE promo,plain and simple.

C-INRED

Yes, it is unbelievable.

All the Mobil 1 I have in my garage carries stamps for the specs this report claims it does not meet. How do you suppose they've managed to put those specs on the bottles all these years without having the verified test results to back them up?

S2K

Yes, it certainly is....

NYC6

Ive been using Mobil 1 since the mid 80's. Did a head and intake swap on my 88 Mustang GT after 120,000 miles. When I took them off and examined the old heads, vavletrain, cylinder wall and piston tops they were amazingly free from gunk and excessive wear or scoring. I stand by Mobil 1.

talon90

Interestingly enough it passes the GM4718M testing and that is what matters to me.

djfullshred

So the letter sent by Valvoline is saying that the Mobile 1 does not meet minimum manufacturer requirements, even though the manufacturer reccomends Mobile 1 to the point of putting the brand name on the oil filler cap, and that Mobile 1 states it meets the requirements on their label?

You are right. It is not believable. I certainly don't believe it - along with many many other things I see on the Internet.

trvlrtom

I'll stay with AMSOIL

Zymurgy

From JobbersWorld:

If the manufacturer participated in the tests (Valvoline did), the results are certainly not "independent".

NEO1

I've been using Mobil 1 for years. I think they have been the industry leader in synthetics from jet engine lubricants to passenger cars.

This is a bit more concerning and not just a normal advertising campaign. This could have a lot of implications on things. I don't think Ashland would go this far if it weren't true. Someone is not going to be happy when this settles.

EuroRod

There are better performing lubricants. Mobil One is not very high on the pecking order.

But, they do pay GM a train load of money to promote their oil.

jschindler

This is awesome news. I've run nothing but Mobil 1 in all of my vehicles for several years. All five of my current vehicles have Mobil 1 in them. When my engines fail I can go to both Mobil 1 and GM and tell them it is their fault (Mobil 1 for not meeting the standards, and GM for putting it in at the factory in both my Corvette and CTS).

Thanks for the heads up! And yes, I plan to keep on using it. Sort of like an extended warranty!

jschindler

How many vehicles are you familiar with that have had oil related failures (or premature wear) that can be related to the Mobil 1 oil that is "not very high on the pecking order"?

I've been around high performance vehicles for about 40 years. That includes racing motorcycles, Cigarette boats and cars. I've never heard of a single oil related failure (due to the oil breaking down or in some way not doing it's job as intended).

HuskerBullet

Not true. Mobil 1 was NEVER the leader in synthetics. Even though it is a much better oil than any petroluem-based oils, only AMS/OIL is Top Dog when it comes to synthetics. I use it in my engine, trany and rear end along with their racing grease and I love it, but to each their own. AMS/OIL keeps all the components cleaner than Mobil 1 ever will. Everbody has their own data, but who is doing the independent testing? Check out their website for their test results against Mobil 1 and many others.....that's when you'll be amazed.

NEO1

http://www.mobil.com/usa-english/fil...A_Brochure.pdf

Who do you think Amsoil purchases base oils and additives from? Mobil invented the PAO back in 1949, well before Amsoil existed.