Mobil 1 FAILS API TESTING
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Mobil 1 FAILS API TESTING
http://jobbersworld.com/valvolineq&Apage1.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...309815&fpart=1
Wow, this is truly unbelievable.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...309815&fpart=1
Wow, this is truly unbelievable.
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http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html
These guys tested Mobil 1 to 18,000 miles without needing an oil change and only needing ONE filter change at 12,000.
Good reading. They tested the oil at 1,000 mile intervals.
These guys tested Mobil 1 to 18,000 miles without needing an oil change and only needing ONE filter change at 12,000.
Good reading. They tested the oil at 1,000 mile intervals.
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Yea,GM uses crap oil in the cars so on top of everything else they can pay to fix our motors.
..It's a VALVOLINE promo,plain and simple.
..It's a VALVOLINE promo,plain and simple.
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Yes, it is unbelievable.
All the Mobil 1 I have in my garage carries stamps for the specs this report claims it does not meet. How do you suppose they've managed to put those specs on the bottles all these years without having the verified test results to back them up?
All the Mobil 1 I have in my garage carries stamps for the specs this report claims it does not meet. How do you suppose they've managed to put those specs on the bottles all these years without having the verified test results to back them up?
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Ive been using Mobil 1 since the mid 80's. Did a head and intake swap on my 88 Mustang GT after 120,000 miles. When I took them off and examined the old heads, vavletrain, cylinder wall and piston tops they were amazingly free from gunk and excessive wear or scoring. I stand by Mobil 1.
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So the letter sent by Valvoline is saying that the Mobile 1 does not meet minimum manufacturer requirements, even though the manufacturer reccomends Mobile 1 to the point of putting the brand name on the oil filler cap, and that Mobile 1 states it meets the requirements on their label?
You are right. It is not believable. I certainly don't believe it - along with many many other things I see on the Internet.
You are right. It is not believable. I certainly don't believe it - along with many many other things I see on the Internet.
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From JobbersWorld:
If the manufacturer participated in the tests (Valvoline did), the results are certainly not "independent".
Additional Information on Valvoline's Challenge
In an effort to gather additional information on Valvoline's claim that "Mobil 1 5W-30 does not meet minimum API SM or ILSAC GF-4 specification because of its inferior performance in the Sequence IVA wear test," JobbersWorld contacted Thomas R. Smith at Valvoline. Smith is Technical Director of Valvoline Lubricants and the author of a letter Valvoline went public with on November 20, 2008 that challenges Mobil 's claims.
Click below to view Valvoline's letter and Q&A to its customers, which is reprinted with Valvoline's permission.
Note: The publishers of JobberWorld do not represent or endorse the accuracy of Valvoline's claims, statements, or position in either its letter or associated Q&A.
In an effort to gather additional information on Valvoline's claim that "Mobil 1 5W-30 does not meet minimum API SM or ILSAC GF-4 specification because of its inferior performance in the Sequence IVA wear test," JobbersWorld contacted Thomas R. Smith at Valvoline. Smith is Technical Director of Valvoline Lubricants and the author of a letter Valvoline went public with on November 20, 2008 that challenges Mobil 's claims.
Click below to view Valvoline's letter and Q&A to its customers, which is reprinted with Valvoline's permission.
Note: The publishers of JobberWorld do not represent or endorse the accuracy of Valvoline's claims, statements, or position in either its letter or associated Q&A.
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I've been using Mobil 1 for years. I think they have been the industry leader in synthetics from jet engine lubricants to passenger cars.
This is a bit more concerning and not just a normal advertising campaign. This could have a lot of implications on things. I don't think Ashland would go this far if it weren't true. Someone is not going to be happy when this settles.
This is a bit more concerning and not just a normal advertising campaign. This could have a lot of implications on things. I don't think Ashland would go this far if it weren't true. Someone is not going to be happy when this settles.
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This is awesome news. I've run nothing but Mobil 1 in all of my vehicles for several years. All five of my current vehicles have Mobil 1 in them. When my engines fail I can go to both Mobil 1 and GM and tell them it is their fault (Mobil 1 for not meeting the standards, and GM for putting it in at the factory in both my Corvette and CTS).
Thanks for the heads up! And yes, I plan to keep on using it. Sort of like an extended warranty!
Thanks for the heads up! And yes, I plan to keep on using it. Sort of like an extended warranty!
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I've been around high performance vehicles for about 40 years. That includes racing motorcycles, Cigarette boats and cars. I've never heard of a single oil related failure (due to the oil breaking down or in some way not doing it's job as intended).
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Not true. Mobil 1 was NEVER the leader in synthetics. Even though it is a much better oil than any petroluem-based oils, only AMS/OIL is Top Dog when it comes to synthetics. I use it in my engine, trany and rear end along with their racing grease and I love it, but to each their own. AMS/OIL keeps all the components cleaner than Mobil 1 ever will. Everbody has their own data, but who is doing the independent testing? Check out their website for their test results against Mobil 1 and many others.....that's when you'll be amazed.
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http://www.mobil.com/usa-english/fil...A_Brochure.pdf
Who do you think Amsoil purchases base oils and additives from? Mobil invented the PAO back in 1949, well before Amsoil existed.
Who do you think Amsoil purchases base oils and additives from? Mobil invented the PAO back in 1949, well before Amsoil existed.