Question on Gas
11-03-2012, 01:05 PM
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Question on Gas
Given a choice between Ethanol and non ethanol gas what would you use. The reason I ask is there is a gas station around 7 Miles from me that has 93 Octane non ethanol gas and I am considering using it on a regular basis ( I just filled up with the non ethanol for the 1st time). I have a 2013 Coupe....I would be interested in your opinion.
11-03-2012, 01:11 PM
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We have a 94 Ethanol and a couple of 91 non Ethanol gas stations around my house and surprising to some, but not all 
, 91 is much, much better for my 750hp monster. 
, 91 is much, much better for my 750hp monster.
11-03-2012, 01:21 PM
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Team Owner
They sure market it like it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. 
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Ultra 94™ is a super-premium fuel that offers high octane performance, even under tough driving conditions. It is only available at select Petro-Canada locations in Ontario and Alberta.
Ultra 94, the High Octane Advantage
Ultra 94's high octane formula surpasses the CGSB (Canadian General Standards Board) performance requirements for super premium gasoline.
What does this mean for your vehicle? Ultra 94's unique performance and higher detergency helps to:
Clean your car's fuel injectors and intake valves — and keep them clean
Optimize fuel economy
Reduce emissions
Improve overall vehicle performance year-round
Ultra 94's higher octane helps ensure you get maximum horsepower, acceleration and performance from your vehicle, even under tough
driving conditions.
Racing with Ultra 94
On the racetrack, Ontario's leader in high octane fuel teams up with Ron Fellows, NASCAR driver, winner of the 24 Hours of Le Mans and sports car racing champion for more than two decades and the Bridgestone Racing Academy, Ontario's premier racing facility.
11-03-2012, 01:28 PM
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if other than the ethanol, all things being equal it's a no-brainer....the non-ethanol...but in reality it's not always that easy for if the non-ethanol is not a 'top tier' gas and the ethanol fuel is, the additive / detergent packages would be superior in the ethanol gas.
11-03-2012, 01:32 PM
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if other than the ethanol, all things being equal it's a no-brainer....the non-ethanol...but in reality it's not always that easy for if the non-ethanol is not a 'top tier' gas and the ethanol fuel is, the additive / detergent packages would be superior in the ethanol gas.
Kind of makes sense, no?
11-03-2012, 03:59 PM
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Top Tier will have better detergents to keep your engine clean, non-ethanol gives slightly more power and better mileage.
We seldom can get all three, I'll accept the ethanol in order to get Top Tier.
11-03-2012, 08:16 PM
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On a trip, I try and get ethanol free gas when possible, even if it's not top tier. I can always add the Techtron every 3,000 miles. Unfortunately, it's hard to find ethanol free gas in most locations.
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11-03-2012, 08:40 PM
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It's Techron, a Chevron additive package that works very well. You'll get better mileage on pure gasoline (and power) due to the higher btu content in gasoline vs Ethanol but like the previous posters have stated, the additive packages help cut down on engine deposits. By the way, if you are interested in cutting engine deposits, you are also using a catch can too, right? I installed one on my '12 GS when it had 57 miles on it.
11-03-2012, 09:03 PM
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I only use Shell V-Power with zero ethanol ever since I found out it doesn't have any (here) - don't know why they don't advertise this...
11-03-2012, 10:51 PM
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It's Techron, a Chevron additive package that works very well. You'll get better mileage on pure gasoline (and power) due to the higher btu content in gasoline vs Ethanol but like the previous posters have stated, the additive packages help cut down on engine deposits. By the way, if you are interested in cutting engine deposits, you are also using a catch can too, right? I installed one on my '12 GS when it had 57 miles on it.
Ask Callaway if they run a catch can on their 125,000 mile 600hp test Vette that has been beat on at the drag strip, road course, cold weather , hot weather etc. etc. No way do they use a catch can, I specifically asked them and they said NO to the catch can. Lingenfelter does not add a catch can to their high hp cars. Millions of cars on the road with high miles do not have catch cans. Plus, there has NEVER been one thread on this forum, with an engine related failure or problem due to no catch can. They sure LOOK racy though.
11-03-2012, 11:07 PM
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Safety Car
11-03-2012, 11:07 PM
#16
Drifting
We have two stations that sell "pure" 100% gas here. Costs more but that is all i use and with 93 octane.
Shell and all the rest are 10% ethanol here.
"Watered down" fuel and oil. Great ain't it?
Shell and all the rest are 10% ethanol here.
"Watered down" fuel and oil. Great ain't it?
11-03-2012, 11:08 PM
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11-04-2012, 12:04 PM
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Team Owner
Beg to differ. I could not find non E gas here for 3 years and now have a couple stations selling it. (For how long I do not know a local dealer says it will be outlawed in NY)
Without a doubt my Z06 runs better, engine is more responsive and it’s noticeable with SOTPD effect. We took a couple 400 mile round trips leaving from my house running the non E gas and its good for two + MPG also.
It does cost me about .25 more per gallon but its well worth it.
I also brought a bunch of 5 gallon cans of good gas for emergency use (generator) and to make a mix for my many 2 stroke toys & tools.
Look in the link and see if any is near you. Like I said before the stations just started selling it here again in this area
