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Old 01-16-2005, 12:14 PM
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Passport 8500 x50 or Valentine 1? whats it gonna be guys?
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Passport 8500 x50 or Valentine 1? whats it gonna be guys?
You left out K40, which is the best. Valentine 1 comes in 2nd.
Old 01-16-2005, 12:58 PM
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Default Another radar/laser dector/jammer

I am looking for a good laser radar dector also. Here is a new one i ran across. Since i'm not at all knowlegable in this area what do you guys think?

RMR C450
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Default Wanted the K40, but cost too much for the wife.

I wanted to put the k40 in but the $1800.00 price tag, after the $2000.00 cost for the blue stripes was too much for the wife to handle.
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Originally Posted by Lonny
I am looking for a good laser radar dector also. Here is a new one i ran across. Since i'm not at all knowlegable in this area what do you guys think?

RMR C450
First of all, passive radar jammers do not work, they are a scam! Second, that detecter got very bad ratings from all tests done on it. Here is a quote from Radar Roy at Radar-Detectors.com:
RMR 450C, a passive radar/laser jammer manufactured by Rocky Mountain Radar. You would have better luck jamming radar by placing a cinder block on your dashboard then using this unit! As for radar detection, very low range.
In other words...stay away from it!

As for my choice I vote for the Valentine 1. Best unit I have used to date and I have used many.
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I'll probibly go with the V1 if i can't talk the wife into the K40
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I am looking for a good laser radar dector also. Here is a new one i ran across. Since i'm not at all knowlegable in this area what do you guys think?

RMR C450
It is a bad joke. If you want a good system, buy the Escort ZR-3. It is an excellent detector, but more importantly it is an active jammer that actually works. With laser, by the time a detector goes off you are caught if you don't have active jammer capability. (Unlike radar, where active jammers are illegal, light isn't federally regulated, so active laser jammers are legal unless there is a local law against them.)

I've tested the ZR-3 against an Atlanta Laser lidar (the most common lidar in use by police). It will alarm at 1500 feet, and the lidar won't be able to get a speed reading until you close to about 50 feet. That gives you plenty of time to get down to legal speed. Of course, if the cop is smart and waits until you're right on top of him before triggering the lidar, you're still caught. That's mostly a worry in town, where it is easier for the cop to hide in the clutter. On the open highway where speeds are normally higher, waiting to the last second requires the cop to be very quick and very confident. They'll normally shoot you at a longer distance to make sure they get a reading, and you'll have time to react.

For radar, the Escort SR-7 is the perfect complement to the ZR-3. It works extremely well, integrates with the ZR-3, and is also completely hidden. (Both of these systems are built ins, requiring a fair amount of skill to install properly.) But the ZR-3 will also integrate with the dash mount Escort 8500 X50 if you prefer. It cannot be integrated with the Valentine, but a separate display is included with the ZR-3 so you can use it stand alone if you prefer to use a V1 as your radar detector.

Since the local revenue enhancers around here have switched to laser, I've become a real believer in effective laser countermeasures. My ZR-3 has saved me many times.
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Originally Posted by Lonny
I wanted to put the k40 in but the $1800.00 price tag, after the $2000.00 cost for the blue stripes was too much for the wife to handle.
I agree, the price for the K40 is very expensive. A buddy of mine has a Viper and uses the K40 and said it has saved his butt several times. He used to have the V1 and said it had alot of interference and false signals many times but the V1 is still a great detector. Not all of us though need radar detectors
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I am looking for a good laser radar dector also. Here is a new one i ran across. Since i'm not at all knowlegable in this area what do you guys think?
Before you buy this you might want to read this...
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Opinions about which is best..... blaa, blaa, blaa....

All 3 will give you excellent service...
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Originally Posted by VANISH
You left out K40, which is the best. Valentine 1 comes in 2nd.
HaHa HaHA
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Default Best Radar Jammer and Best Laser Jammer

Originally Posted by shopdog
It is a bad joke. If you want a good system, buy the Escort ZR-3. It is an excellent detector, but more importantly it is an active jammer that actually works. With laser, by the time a detector goes off you are caught if you don't have active jammer capability. (Unlike radar, where active jammers are illegal, light isn't federally regulated, so active laser jammers are legal unless there is a local law against them.)

I've tested the ZR-3 against an Atlanta Laser lidar (the most common lidar in use by police). It will alarm at 1500 feet, and the lidar won't be able to get a speed reading until you close to about 50 feet. That gives you plenty of time to get down to legal speed. Of course, if the cop is smart and waits until you're right on top of him before triggering the lidar, you're still caught. That's mostly a worry in town, where it is easier for the cop to hide in the clutter. On the open highway where speeds are normally higher, waiting to the last second requires the cop to be very quick and very confident. They'll normally shoot you at a longer distance to make sure they get a reading, and you'll have time to react.

For radar, the Escort SR-7 is the perfect complement to the ZR-3. It works extremely well, integrates with the ZR-3, and is also completely hidden. (Both of these systems are built ins, requiring a fair amount of skill to install properly.) But the ZR-3 will also integrate with the dash mount Escort 8500 X50 if you prefer. It cannot be integrated with the Valentine, but a separate display is included with the ZR-3 so you can use it stand alone if you prefer to use a V1 as your radar detector.

Since the local revenue enhancers around here have switched to laser, I've become a real believer in effective laser countermeasures. My ZR-3 has saved me many times.
The best laser jammer is the Blinder M20 or M40

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/...ming-tests.asp

The best active radar jammer only works on X and K band so far and it is the Phantom RCD XP or Scorpion RCD XP

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/...ming-tests.asp

The best radar detector with true 360 degree protection is the V1

http://www.valentine1.com/
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Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
The best laser jammer is the Blinder M20 or M40

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/...ming-tests.asp
Roy biased that test. Look where he mounted the shifters. If he had mounted them under the headlights as he did the blinders, it would have been a fairer test. Instead, he mounted the shifters outside the primary aiming area for a police lidar. He also mounted all 4 blinders up front, but didn't mount the 3rd shifter at all. Normally, 2 of the blinders and 1 of the shifters would go in the rear, leaving each system with two units up front. In the rear, the primary aiming area is the license plate, and one shifter covers that adequately.

With laser detectors/jammers, mounting is *critical*. They need to be mounted as close as possible to the primary aiming points, and they need to be aligned precisely down the road. Having a unit even slightly off axis will greatly reduce its effectiveness.

Note that the Corvette gives us one big advantage because it doesn't have brightwork and doesn't use large reflectors for its headlights. That makes it a much harder target for the laser in the first place. Even without jamming, you have to get pretty close to the lidar for it to get a reading. Basically, it has to bounce off a painted surface, and the fascia is tilted back so there's not much reflection heading back toward the lidar.

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