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Old 05-10-2008, 04:34 PM
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RESULTS FROM TEXAS VEHICLE INSPECTION REPORT NOT GOOD

Okay, I have LG headers with High Flow cats.
I was getting a P0430 code = Catalyst System Efficiency Below threshold (bank 2).

I reset the computer with a code reader/eraser.

Drove the car for about 40 miles with not codes or service light.. So I pulled into inspection and it “FAILED”. I have HP Tuner and could turn this P0430 off but I don’t think this will solve my problem as far as getting the car to “PASS”. Does any one know how many miles I you have to drive or how many time the car has to be started to run throw the cycles? Or what should I do.
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Originally Posted by c6 Houston
RESULTS FROM TEXAS VEHICLE INSPECTION REPORT NOT GOOD

Okay, I have LG headers with High Flow cats.
I was getting a P0430 code = Catalyst System Efficiency Below threshold (bank 2).

I reset the computer with a code reader/eraser.

Drove the car for about 40 miles with not codes or service light.. So I pulled into inspection and it “FAILED”. I have HP Tuner and could turn this P0430 off but I don’t think this will solve my problem as far as getting the car to “PASS”. Does any one know how many miles I you have to drive or how many time the car has to be started to run throw the cycles? Or what should I do.
You did know that this could be an issue before you installed the headers, right???

Let us know when it finally does pass emissions. But I suspect that you are right, in that if you turn those codes off, it still might not pass.

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Well I don't know if this will help but in NY when a code/CEL comes on the car must be driven fast and slow and fast again for 15-30 minutes then left to cool off some.We had a MUSTANG here that had a CAT issue(it was set up with headers,tune etc) We had to put a new "CAT" IN and remove the tune (DIABLO).
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Set the O2 sensor codes to "no error reported" and leave the codes enabled. You should pass fine, I did in maryland.
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Did they tell you why you failed? Was it because of the codes or because of the headers/cats?
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Did they tell you why you failed? Was it because of the codes or because of the headers/cats?
All of the emission readiness tests probably didn't finish running yet. It could take a week for all the tests to completely run depending on driving style.
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Originally Posted by c6 Houston
RESULTS FROM TEXAS VEHICLE INSPECTION REPORT NOT GOOD

Okay, I have LG headers with High Flow cats.
I was getting a P0430 code = Catalyst System Efficiency Below threshold (bank 2).

I reset the computer with a code reader/eraser.

Drove the car for about 40 miles with not codes or service light.. So I pulled into inspection and it “FAILED”. I have HP Tuner and could turn this P0430 off but I don’t think this will solve my problem as far as getting the car to “PASS”. Does any one know how many miles I you have to drive or how many time the car has to be started to run throw the cycles? Or what should I do.
This may help: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/Misc...ists092005.pdf
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I had the same issue years back when I put my headers in and didn't bother with a dyno-tune. The car senses the higher flow cats as an error and throws the cat ineffieciency code and you reset it. I did this for a long time as the code would only trip ever few weeks. In a C5 you can pull up your codes and delete them in the DIC (no seperate code reader needed). The trick is to go ahead and get the car tuned and have the rear 02s turned off or have the codes turned off. After having that done I passed inspection w/o issue.

Everytime you clear the code you undo the "ready" settings of various systems on the car. When the tech plugs in the OBD-II scanner it first checks for system readiness. If you have 2 or more not readys then you cannot get tested and fail. The car must go through a rather involved drive cycle of various conditions to re-set the ready status.

Same thing happened to my father's stock '04 Z16 Z06 when he didn't drive it for a few months... the car showed as not ready. They told him to drive it for a week and come back. It eventually passed.

So... go get a proper tune.
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So... go get a proper tune.
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Here is a link to the drive cycle required for ready status.

I/M readiness test
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Problems with emissions or inspections? Move to Florida!
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Problems with emissions or inspections? Move to Florida!
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus
Set the O2 sensor codes to "no error reported" and leave the codes enabled. You should pass fine, I did in maryland.
I have HP Tuners Pro and not sure how to do this?
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^ If you have HPTuners, then you can go in and turn off the rear 02s
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
^ If you have HPTuners, then you can go in and turn off the rear 02s
Turning off his rear 02s might not be the answer either.

If his rear 02s are nonfunctional or turned off, they will show a "not ready" status when the folks at the inspection station plug into his OBD port and test his emissions system for readiness. It would be the same as if you had a bad 02 sensor.

In some states, thats enough to fail emissions.

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Originally Posted by HurtSoGood
Problems with emissions or inspections? Move to Florida!

Pls don't
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Originally Posted by c6 Houston
RESULTS FROM TEXAS VEHICLE INSPECTION REPORT NOT GOOD

Okay, I have LG headers with High Flow cats.
I was getting a P0430 code = Catalyst System Efficiency Below threshold (bank 2).
a little while back there was some good discussions on the forum about headers, cats, and codes.

Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
You did know that this could be an issue before you installed the headers, right???
Originally Posted by k0bun
Did they tell you why you failed? Was it because of the codes or because of the headers/cats?
or was it 'failed based upon the visual inspection', it's a 'federal fail' for messing with the 'cats'. simply moving them from their 'original' location will fail the car.

Originally Posted by GMautotech
All of the emission readiness tests probably didn't finish running yet. It could take a week for all the tests to completely run depending on driving style.


Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Everytime you clear the code you undo the "ready" settings of various systems on the car. When the tech plugs in the OBD-II scanner it first checks for system readiness. If you have 2 or more not readys then you cannot get tested and fail.


Originally Posted by Brett Hunter
Here is a link to the drive cycle required for ready status.

I/M readiness test


btw: the 'issue' can be resolved without 'turning off any codes or disabling anything.' even though a 'good tune' is always a good idea (caveat - gm can tell if it's been 'tuned' and can deny warantee as a result) a tune is not required to resolve the issue.

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In Texas, like some (maybe all?) other states, there is no sniffer test for OBDII cars. They just read the PCM. I'm no expert (by a long shot), but I believe if he turns off the code it will pass.

I have a 99 T/A that I bought with long tubes and no cats. Passed 2 years in a row no problems at two different inspection stations. Obviously the previous owner had disabled several codes. My intention was to put cats back on, but now I'm selling the car.

They are getting picky here about resetting (as opposed to removing) a code and then going for inspection. I did not know this last year when a friend of mine got a code on her Saturn about eveporative emissions. She probably needed a new gas cap. I reset it and she drove a couple days and it did not come back. She went for inspection and they told her to come back in a few more days because someone had recently reset trouble codes. That surprised me.

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My '05 passed 2 Texas inpections with DynoMaxx long tube headers with high flow cats thanks to Chuck@ Corvetes of Westchester's mail order tune. No codes on the OBD2 and the visual was a "Don't ask, don't tell".
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In California there is a waiting period after codes have been reset. I don't know what it is but it's a least a few days.


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