Katech independently test BER ported LS3 intake
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you have to remember the old saying to much can be a bad thing, when porting half the work out there is strickly show. meaning what looks good to the customer"oh that looks good must work well" no not the case if you remove too much or in the wrong area you can or will actaully hurt flow.ive seen some of these other manifolds ,they actually structually weakin the the manifolds by removing too much material. thanks katech,
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My 243 heads are already ported, Livernois Stage II H/C package. Along with some other bolt ons I'm pushing 454 rwhp & 403 tq. The cam has a nice lope and is very streetable. The FAST would be the icing on the cake.
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It looks like BER is the only company that has enough confidence in their intake to let someone put it to the test. They deserve everyone's business. Perhaps the rest know that their manifolds would be found out for what they really are. A friend has a flow bench and he says that you can see flow numbers go away when you start grinding in the wrong places. It's not as easy as it looks and a lot of people are getting conned into spending a lot of money for little or no gain.
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Thanks for the reply. Would I run the risk of being too lean with this without a tune though? This is definitely something I'm interested in, but don't want to run the risk of voiding a warranty if a tune is needed to keep from being too lean. My service manager said he could care less what parts I put on the car, but a tune makes it really hard for him defend against GM if something goes wrong. He's very flexible on a lot because he's a care enthusiasts himself.
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Any benefit on a stock LS3?
I can add a few bolt-ons but have no plans for a cam or headers due to CA emissions testing, including visual.
Regarding the CEL, obviously need that to remain off. A throttle body porter on here says with a ported tb it'll illuminate. Not sure I understand why since programming parameters usually aren't that tight. Thoughts? Do you guys also port throttle bodies?
I can add a few bolt-ons but have no plans for a cam or headers due to CA emissions testing, including visual.
Regarding the CEL, obviously need that to remain off. A throttle body porter on here says with a ported tb it'll illuminate. Not sure I understand why since programming parameters usually aren't that tight. Thoughts? Do you guys also port throttle bodies?
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the car is tuned rich from the factory so the fact that it will be a little lean will not cause any issues on the topic of the check engine light illuminating due to a ported throttle body the answer is usually no we do not commonly see check engine lights from our ported throttle body
Any benefit on a stock LS3?
I can add a few bolt-ons but have no plans for a cam or headers due to CA emissions testing, including visual.
Regarding the CEL, obviously need that to remain off. A throttle body porter on here says with a ported tb it'll illuminate. Not sure I understand why since programming parameters usually aren't that tight. Thoughts? Do you guys also port throttle bodies?
I can add a few bolt-ons but have no plans for a cam or headers due to CA emissions testing, including visual.
Regarding the CEL, obviously need that to remain off. A throttle body porter on here says with a ported tb it'll illuminate. Not sure I understand why since programming parameters usually aren't that tight. Thoughts? Do you guys also port throttle bodies?
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Can I just send my LS2 manifold to be ported? It's going to be a while before mine is coming out of the garage here in Minnesnowta.
Has the LS2 intake been dyno tested like this before?
Has the LS2 intake been dyno tested like this before?
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We port all our manifolds the same. There are basic principles when trying to maximize CFM while preserving max port velocity. Plenum volume is not an issue, getting that air volume channeled at speed is.
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Ok. Finalizing my build right now. F2 Procharged LS3 Head Iron Dart Block. Wanted to put the Super victor intake on my C6 but the intake and elbow is too tall even with my 2.5" Cowl so thats out of the picture. Scratched.
Victor Jr intake with Elbow will clear but barely with how much gain? I dunno.
Sheet metal inake for $2500 minimum with how much gain? I dunno.
My stock LS3 Intake on my motor. 1. Will it hold the boost? 2. Is it restricting my CNC ported LS3 heads. 3. If yall port my LS3 intake what kind of gains should I expect through my LS3 CNC Ported heads without the charger and how much benefit could I expect it to have on the engine with the charger after you have ported it. I am a serious customer wanting anything I can get out of the engine who would hate to buy a FAST with little or no results, victor jr, sheet metal or any other that have close to or same results. Your opinion please cause im ready to ship my intake to you.
Jeremy
Victor Jr intake with Elbow will clear but barely with how much gain? I dunno.
Sheet metal inake for $2500 minimum with how much gain? I dunno.
My stock LS3 Intake on my motor. 1. Will it hold the boost? 2. Is it restricting my CNC ported LS3 heads. 3. If yall port my LS3 intake what kind of gains should I expect through my LS3 CNC Ported heads without the charger and how much benefit could I expect it to have on the engine with the charger after you have ported it. I am a serious customer wanting anything I can get out of the engine who would hate to buy a FAST with little or no results, victor jr, sheet metal or any other that have close to or same results. Your opinion please cause im ready to ship my intake to you.
Jeremy
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Stock ls3 intake with the pillars still in it will hold A LOT of boost.
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