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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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A while back we posted some test results from a couple of ported LS3 intake manifolds and the FAST LSXR 102mm LS3 intake. (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...manifolds.html) The ported intakes made 0hp. After a bit of controversy, I offered free ported intake manifold testing to any company that wanted to step up. Bare Essentials Racing was the only company that submitted a manifold. Yesterday we conducted the A-B test and found that the intake picked up 7hp and 5 ft-lbs.

Baseline C2-9434 519hp/465tq
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Glad this went through and the results got posted.

The FAST LSXR 102mm made 8hp/7ft-lbs it looks like based on your previous thread, so the BER intake making 7hp/5ft-lbs is very close if not equal given different days/conditions.
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Jason,

We really appreciate you testing our manifold and reporting independent test results. We think our work is well thought out and we try to do what works rather than what sounds and looks good in pics and on paper. Have a great weekend

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So basically, save your money on the FAST and pick up the BER ported LS3.
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So basically, save your money on the FAST and pick up the BER ported LS3.
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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And even then it should probably be saved as one of the last mods. It's not a very good $ to hp ratio...especially considering these are crank numbers on a decently modded motor.
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And even then it should probably be saved as one of the last mods. It's not a very good $ to hp ratio...especially considering these are crank numbers on a decently modded motor.
8rwhp for $800+
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Originally Posted by BornSUPERCHARGED
8rwhp for $800+
How about 7hp for $200 when you return your unported core? $200/7= $28.5/HP

Supercharger $6000/ 120hp= $50/HP

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Originally Posted by ccajun4real
How about 7hp for $200? $200/7= $28.5/HP

Supercharger $6000/ 120hp= $50/HP

https://sites.google.com/site/barees...take-manifolds
With a supercharger you can specify your pulley size. Pulley down for 12psi and you'll gain 225hp, which is $26/hp

Was referring to the FAST being $800+

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Thanks for the info.
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Good info, thanks.
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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Good of you to take the time to test this and post the results. (also good of BER to step up and submit for the test knowing the results would be posted good or bad.)
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ccajun4real
Jason,

We really appreciate you testing our manifold and reporting independent test results. We think our work is well thought out and we try to do what works rather than what sounds and looks good in pics and on paper. Have a great weekend

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Does this ported intake have the internal bracing posts removed?
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I bought an LS2 ported intake from BER, Cajun was a real pleasure doing business with. He didn't charge me an insane amount for shipping like some vendors do, emails with questions were answered within minutes.

Go BER

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Nice to see a company step up and take Jason up on his offer. It's a crying shame that nobody else took him up on that. I thinks it says a lot for what companies "actually" think of their own products if they're afraid of what the results will show.
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Originally Posted by RichieRichZ06
Nice to see a company step up and take Jason up on his offer. It's a crying shame that nobody else took him up on that. I thinks it says a lot for what companies "actually" think of their own products if they're afraid of what the results will show.
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Originally Posted by Katech_Jason
A while back we posted some test results from a couple of ported LS3 intake manifolds and the FAST LSXR 102mm LS3 intake. (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...manifolds.html) The ported intakes made 0hp. After a bit of controversy, I offered free ported intake manifold testing to any company that wanted to step up. Bare Essentials Racing was the only company that submitted a manifold. Yesterday we conducted the A-B test and found that the intake picked up 7hp and 5 ft-lbs.

Baseline C2-9434 519hp/465tq
BER ported intake C2-9437 526hp/470tq

Jason, is that through the stock LS3 airbox or the Halltech Super Bee MF103?

Finally, some nice results! Congrats BER Katech dynos are like gold. You can take their dynos to the bank.

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jason, is that through the stock ls3 airbox or the halltech super bee mf103?

Finally, some nice results! Congrats ber Katech dynos are like gold. You can take their dynos to the bank.

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Jason, did you notice anything about this porting job that distinguished itself from the other intake porting you have seen?

7 HP seems amazing for port matching only.

How does the intake manifold get port matched to the heads unless they are done with the bottom installed for alignment intake to head?

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