SS brake lines..... just more BS?
#1
SS brake lines..... just more BS?
I'm thinking about installing SS brake lines on my C6.... are they really better than stock? Real or BS? Since they are just rubber inside and fancy SS braids on the outside, aren't they really the same? Of course every product guys buy/add on to their cars seem to make HUGE differences, I just don't believe much anymore... real proof would be nice I guess... opinions? Thanks......
#5
Burning Brakes
Probably not worth the effort and expense - I couldn't feel any pedal difference in my C4 ZR-1 ... plus you really want DOT approved parts (TUV in Europe) to protect the jewels.
#6
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Oct 2005
Location: Left Coast, San Diego
Posts: 6,654
Received 2,093 Likes
on
1,207 Posts
#7
Le Mans Master
Kinda like that Hot chic you got sitting at home........... Eye Candy that no one else can see. lol. I've thought about it but for me not worth the time or money.
Oh yea to answer your question BS.
Oh yea to answer your question BS.
#8
Supporting Vendor
Member Since: Sep 2013
Location: Harbor City California
Posts: 2,823
Received 1,016 Likes
on
535 Posts
They are not BS and will help out a little bit. Never seen a professional race car with rubber brake lines. Wonder why? If you putting them on a C6z06 i would 100% not do it yourself, i would use a shop. GM overtightened the lines from the factory and distorted the threads. Most of the time you are able to save and restore the threads but there have been times when the "gorilla" who put them on at the factory went ape (so to speak) and in that odd case a hard line replacement could become necessary.
#9
Le Mans Master
They are not BS and will help out a little bit. Never seen a professional race car with rubber brake lines. Wonder why? If you putting them on a C6z06 i would 100% not do it yourself, i would use a shop. GM overtightened the lines from the factory and distorted the threads. Most of the time you are able to save and restore the threads but there have been times when the "gorilla" who put them on at the factory went ape (so to speak) and in that odd case a hard line replacement could become necessary.
#11
Race Director
It was a special and I was having the calipers powder coated at the time.
Just like when I had the ARH headers system installed I added the thermal tunnel plate.
#12
Melting Slicks
Member Since: Jul 2010
Location: Tacoma, Wa/Surprise, Az
Posts: 2,854
Received 198 Likes
on
169 Posts
Torky, SS brake lines have their place, they are not rubber inside with fancy SS braid on the outside, they are teflon tube with SS braid, much less flexible than the rubber factory lines.
So the real question is do you feel much flexibility in your brakes? About the only people that would feel it are people tracking their cars, and then it would be those on the higher end of the skill level, ie, instructors and 'A' group drivers. I've had both and currently running rubber and can't really tell the difference, then again I'm not an instructor or 'A; group driver either. I'm in 'B' group.
So the real question is do you feel much flexibility in your brakes? About the only people that would feel it are people tracking their cars, and then it would be those on the higher end of the skill level, ie, instructors and 'A' group drivers. I've had both and currently running rubber and can't really tell the difference, then again I'm not an instructor or 'A; group driver either. I'm in 'B' group.
#13
Pro
When I had my calipers powder coated I also added SS brake lines. I don't track my vette but run it at the drag strip (Bandimere Speedway). I have not noticed any difference whatsoever.
#14
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Less Talk, More WOT | Houston TX
Posts: 6,694
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Depends on your intended use really. Don't waste the money on a street car. I might do them if for some reason I just had to replace brake lines anyway. If you do track days, it's worth the investment.
#15
Track Junky
It's a must for track cars as they don't flex as much as rubber lines. For street driving, you may never notice the difference unless you are very aggressive...
#16
Former Vendor
I agree with the above statements for the most part in saying that yes they are nice to have, they do make "some" difference, and they do not expand under pressure like the rubber ones. The other thing to think about is as your rubber lines become older they progressively give more and more, especially under high pressure and hot conditions that you will experience with track day or aggressive street driving. Either way wanted to drop a line in here and try to help but it looks like you guys go tit covered.
FYI if you do want a set I put them ON SALE for you guys. They are in stock and priced around $100, what else can you buy for these cars these days for $100.
Link for Purchasing Click Here
FYI if you do want a set I put them ON SALE for you guys. They are in stock and priced around $100, what else can you buy for these cars these days for $100.
Link for Purchasing Click Here
#18
Burning Brakes
May create DTCs and DIC indications
I found this "service slant" in the October 2014 MOTOR magazine which might give you second thoughts about SS brake hoses. Sounds pretty far-fetched to me, but who knows ??
"Chevrolet
ABS/TCS lights on, DTCs logged.
Chevy says that some 1997-2013 Corvettes may illuminate the ABS and Traction Control lights and log DTCs C0035/C1225 and/or C0040/C1226 in computer memory.
According to the carmaker, the trouble typically occurs when the sports car is driven over bumps at speeds below 35 mph and could be due to the installation of aftermarket braided stainless-steel brake hoses. The hoses cause electrical interference in the front ABS wheel speed sensor signals.
The only way to make an accurate diagnosis is to remove the aftermarket hoses and install a set of OE brake lines. If the warning lights stay off and the codes don’t reset, you’ve found the problem. If the lights come back on, you’ve got to continue troubleshooting."
"Chevrolet
ABS/TCS lights on, DTCs logged.
Chevy says that some 1997-2013 Corvettes may illuminate the ABS and Traction Control lights and log DTCs C0035/C1225 and/or C0040/C1226 in computer memory.
According to the carmaker, the trouble typically occurs when the sports car is driven over bumps at speeds below 35 mph and could be due to the installation of aftermarket braided stainless-steel brake hoses. The hoses cause electrical interference in the front ABS wheel speed sensor signals.
The only way to make an accurate diagnosis is to remove the aftermarket hoses and install a set of OE brake lines. If the warning lights stay off and the codes don’t reset, you’ve found the problem. If the lights come back on, you’ve got to continue troubleshooting."
#19
Track Junky
I found this "service slant" in the October 2014 MOTOR magazine which might give you second thoughts about SS brake hoses. Sounds pretty far-fetched to me, but who knows ??
"Chevrolet
ABS/TCS lights on, DTCs logged.
Chevy says that some 1997-2013 Corvettes may illuminate the ABS and Traction Control lights and log DTCs C0035/C1225 and/or C0040/C1226 in computer memory.
According to the carmaker, the trouble typically occurs when the sports car is driven over bumps at speeds below 35 mph and could be due to the installation of aftermarket braided stainless-steel brake hoses. The hoses cause electrical interference in the front ABS wheel speed sensor signals.
The only way to make an accurate diagnosis is to remove the aftermarket hoses and install a set of OE brake lines. If the warning lights stay off and the codes don’t reset, you’ve found the problem. If the lights come back on, you’ve got to continue troubleshooting."
"Chevrolet
ABS/TCS lights on, DTCs logged.
Chevy says that some 1997-2013 Corvettes may illuminate the ABS and Traction Control lights and log DTCs C0035/C1225 and/or C0040/C1226 in computer memory.
According to the carmaker, the trouble typically occurs when the sports car is driven over bumps at speeds below 35 mph and could be due to the installation of aftermarket braided stainless-steel brake hoses. The hoses cause electrical interference in the front ABS wheel speed sensor signals.
The only way to make an accurate diagnosis is to remove the aftermarket hoses and install a set of OE brake lines. If the warning lights stay off and the codes don’t reset, you’ve found the problem. If the lights come back on, you’ve got to continue troubleshooting."
The solution is to cut a length of rubber hose (about 2-3" per caliper will do it), slit it lengthwise and wrap around brake line closest to the caliper banjo bolt. This solved the issue permanently in both cars.