cam or intake manifold
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cam or intake manifold
Wondering if I should do cam and springs first or a msd atomic airforce intake? What would need a tune afterwards -baller on a budget
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Intake 1st. The stock ls2 intake is not the best. I had an 06 A6 with similar mods, I did the ported fast 92 1st and the car ran great. You would want to upgrade the manifold when doing a cam anyway. Get it out of the way now.
Unless you decide to go FI.
Unless you decide to go FI.
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It's a 07 a6. I got longtube headers,high flow cats, exhaust, cai. Would the fast require a tune to function? I plan on getting a tune just don't want get a tune and a month later put in cams and springs and need a retune. I'm looking at then new msd atomic airforce manifold
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I did a dyno overlay of all my mods from headers to heads. See below.
It's wise to remove airflow restrictions in the proper order, which is headers, then cam, then intake, then heads. Going out of order doesn't make sense, for example, Trickflow heads are great but on a stock cam they aren't the bottle neck so you won't notice the difference.
See how they stack up on the dyno, and note the last three only matter from 4500 rpm up. There is other good discussion in this thread as well so read on if you care to.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ast-heads.html
It's wise to remove airflow restrictions in the proper order, which is headers, then cam, then intake, then heads. Going out of order doesn't make sense, for example, Trickflow heads are great but on a stock cam they aren't the bottle neck so you won't notice the difference.
See how they stack up on the dyno, and note the last three only matter from 4500 rpm up. There is other good discussion in this thread as well so read on if you care to.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ast-heads.html
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It doesn't matter what order you do your mods. Keep in mind that a cam will have a lot bigger gains on a stock motor than an intake swap would on a stock motor. I can't really see the MSD Atomic giving you much until you have other mods to make it shine. Granted there might be a slight increase but you will need a dyno sheet to tell it. You will feel the powerband extended the first time you hammer down with a cam swap.
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Damn that MSD intake is a nice piece of work. A little too expensive for me though. I gotta stick with the FAST 92/102. Go with the intake before the cam, but if you can afford both, get it done, tune it and be done with it.
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unless you have other mods like headers & CAI, I would do the Intake 1st. The gains will be marginal, but the swap will take an hour or so. If and when you do a cam swap, the added volume of the intake will yield higher gains. Think of an engine as an air pump, the faster you get air in & out the higher output it will have.
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I don't agree! FACT 90MM WILL suport 1200HP. you have to butcher your fire wall to install the fast, 20hp? you WILL have to tune after you install, your right I've seen 20hp gains too BUT was it the fast or the tune? IMHO if you want to get the BEST HP for the buck SUPERCHARGE IT! 7-8 grand 200 HP. if you just want to get over 400 hp to the ground, cam it and tune, my 2006 MN6 LS2 Z06 exhaust system, roller rocker arms, K&N intake, just tuned 381 HP 378 TQ
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Thanks for all the responses currently thinking cam spring install with torque converter and maybe gears with tune. Any thoughts ? I'll do intake later in year or next?
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