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Old 02-24-2012, 09:20 AM   #1
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Default Z06 vs ZL1 Camaro at Nurburgring

I was just wondering if any of you have some more information on the new Camaro running a 7:42 at the ring. I find it hard to believe that the camaro ran a better time than our Z06s. I am a fan of the new camaro and would love to have one in my garage but I wouldn't give up my Z06 for it. I know it has 80 more HP but it weighs more and I think it has less rubber too. For me its really a win win because I'm a big Chevy fan. Just wondering if any of you know more about the time. Was it a rolling start?, what kind of tires, etc. Thanks.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:24 AM   #2
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Corvette ran 7:22
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...eife_lap_times
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:29 AM   #3
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Thanks I feel a little better now. Still any info on the camaro run?
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:40 AM   #4
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The original ring run with a Z06 when the car first came out in 2006 was 7:42. That was done however on a standing start. The times recorded now is with a flying start and there is a section of track where they don't record lap times so cars can slow down and return to the pit area.

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The original ring run with a Z06 when the car first came out in 2006 was 7:42. That was done however on a standing start. The times recorded now is with a flying start and there is a section of track where they don't record lap times so cars can slow down and return to the pit area.

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The newer Z06 also has much better tires.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:59 AM   #6
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The new Camaro is not one to fear for racing. It's a beast of it's own in a completely different class. Nice car, but just not a Corvette.
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The new Camaro is not one to fear for racing. It's a beast of it's own in a completely different class. Nice car, but just not a Corvette.


If you are not in the right gear in your z06 running one from a roll you will get surprised.

Its a 12 second quarter mile car. A couple of road test mags have pegged it at 12.2 to 12.3 running 115 to 117mph. Our Z's are 11.5 to 11.8 at 122 to 125 mph in the mags.

http://hypebeast.com/2012/01/2012-chevrolet-camaro-zl1/

The looks are begining to grow on me. I saw a camaro (not zl1) coming down the road, and for a second the front end reminded me of a 1977/78 trans am.
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:05 PM   #8
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Latest 'Ring' performance by a Z06 was stellar

7:22.68 to be exact . . . base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure) and Z07 package

That said, the ZL1 Camaro, at about 19 seconds slower, is no slouch when you consider all the extra weight.
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Latest 'Ring' performance by a Z06 was stellar

7:22.68 to be exact . . . base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure) and Z07 package

That said, the ZL1 Camaro, at about 19 seconds slower, is no slouch when you consider all the extra weight.
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Old 02-24-2012, 03:09 PM   #10
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The ZL1 exists to do battle against the GT500, not a Corvette. We should be rejoicing that GM has the guts to manufacture cars like the ZR1, Z06, ZL1 and CTS-V.

They all serve a different market and clientele.

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Latest 'Ring' performance by a Z06 was stellar

7:22.68 to be exact . . . base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure) and Z07 package

That said, the ZL1 Camaro, at about 19 seconds slower, is no slouch when you consider all the extra weight.
GM is making an effort at least to stay in contention

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The ZL1 exists to do battle against the GT500, not a Corvette. We should be rejoicing that GM has the guts to manufacture cars like the ZR1, Z06, ZL1 and CTS-V.

They all serve a different market and clientele.

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also. I just can't get over the Camaro looks...I've tried but it just does not do it for me, I think Mustangs look so much better
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also. I just can't get over the Camaro looks...I've tried but it just does not do it for me, I think Mustangs look so much better

And I also think the Challenger looks sweet even though I'm not a Mopar fan.
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The ZL1 exists to do battle against the GT500.....
Tom
And it will probably lose that battle...............against the 2013 Shelby (eyeing one to share garage space with my Z)
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And it will probably lose that battle...............against the 2013 Shelby (eyeing one to share garage space with my Z)
With 100 more HP and 200 lbs. less weight than the ZL 1, the 2013 GT 500 is going to eat the Camaro alive.
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:45 AM   #15
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GM is making an effort at least to stay in contention



also. I just can't get over the Camaro looks...I've tried but it just does not do it for me, I think Mustangs look so much better
Same here.

Maybe the ZL1 will look a lil bit better if they lighten it up a little.
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With 100 more HP and 200 lbs. less weight than the ZL 1, the 2013 GT 500 is going to eat the Camaro alive.

ummmmmmmmmmm . . . . not so IMO.

Drag strip time - maybe the Gt500 is faster IF it can get traction. Camaro does have active launch control . . .

Any real track or road course - Camaro has independent tuned suspension and 3rd generation magnetic selective ride versus GT500's live axle. I'm betting the ZL1 is quicker. It tuned a 7:41 lap time at the Ring - let's see what the GT500 does there.

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ummmmmmmmmmm . . . . not so IMO.

Drag strip time - maybe the Gt500 is faster IF it can get traction. Camaro does have active launch control . . .

Any real track or road course - Camaro has independent tuned suspension and 3rd generation magnetic selective ride versus GT500's live axle. I'm betting the ZR1 is quicker. It tuned a 7:41 lap time at the Ring - let's see what the GT500 does there.
I think the ZR1 is just a bit FASTER than that....unless of course you 'meant' to state ZL1
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I think the ZR1 is just a bit FASTER than that....unless of course you 'meant' to state ZL1

Thanks- made the correction. Late night . . . . . .
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With 100 more HP and 200 lbs. less weight than the ZL 1, the 2013 GT 500 is going to eat the Camaro alive.
2013 GT500 has 70hp more than the ZL1 (650 vs. 580), it has 100hp more than the 12 Shelby (rated @ 550hp).
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That auto with the tap shift in the ZL1 is pretty impressive as well as it is making its way into the vette soon. They spent a lot of time getting the ZL1 just right and getting the suspension to perform as well as it does.
I was glad to see the Camaro come back and was VERY excitied to see what they did with the ZL1. But everytime I park next to one I can not get over how huge it is compared to a corvette. To take something that big and heavy and be able to throw it around a track as well as it does...I am impressed.

I just hope they put the same or more R&D into the C7.
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