[Z06] Maybe The PRC Heads Are NOT The Answer To Guide Wear
#221
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And wasn't one of the two SS valve issues on a set of WCCH heads? Assuming it were, would it change WCCH's reputation in any way [no], or would people assume there is something else more likely to cause failure [yes]?
#222
If the oem valves are so bad how are Katech builds running so successfully? We also have little to no guide measurements from "the fix". We also have little to no valve valve failures without the presence of guide wear.
Other than secret societies how are these conclusions being formed? Also what is the point of posting "expert" opinions if you dont say who the expert is. Its completely pointless without validation.
Other than secret societies how are these conclusions being formed? Also what is the point of posting "expert" opinions if you dont say who the expert is. Its completely pointless without validation.
At least one has failed, which apparently had excessively worn stock guides in it, which suggests that guide wear causes valve breakage even with solid valves. With that fact, I can't imagine why more of those owners aren't interested in having their guides measured to make sure they're staying in spec. It's not like worn bronze guides are going to grab the valve before it drops and say, "whoah there buddy stay up here."
On your second point, the point of these forums is for owners to combine and share information and make everyone's experience better. When there are secrets, they don't help anyone and stating that you have been given an expert opinion, "just trust me," is meaningless without background information.
I understand if someone doesn't feel they should name names, but if that's the case then you might as well not share the information because it carries no weight.
#223
Melting Slicks
I wouldn't consider this failed air attack head as successful.
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic...art=45#p362784
Yeah yeah, I know, single case, not enough background info, another forum, humans are capable of dishonesty, yadda yadda
Oh and BTW, they use a Solid Inconel Exhaust Valve on their TT air attack package, so at some point, even they determine that a solid inconel exhaust valve is necessary.
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic...art=45#p362784
Yeah yeah, I know, single case, not enough background info, another forum, humans are capable of dishonesty, yadda yadda
Oh and BTW, they use a Solid Inconel Exhaust Valve on their TT air attack package, so at some point, even they determine that a solid inconel exhaust valve is necessary.
You gave all the reasons I would respond to.
1 failure? Thats it? In all the years they have been running it? Hardly a reason for alarm and really not worth even mentioning it to make a case against a Katech build with OEM valves. How about some NA cars? Do you know of any failures with any of those builds? An honest question, I don't know of any.
We know failures happen for many different reasons. Who knows the conditions of how the linked car failed.
I never stated Solid Inconel Exhaust Valves are bad in every situation. I have many cars and many builds running SS exhaust valves.
I said I wouldn't do it in a NA LS7. Many things are changed in that TT Air Attack build. Trust me I know because I have spoken with Jason at length about it and it is something I was thinking on doing.
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There are issues, some more serious than others, in this thread and another companion thread ...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...weeks-wth.html
The companion thread was started by someone who had a complaint after dealing with two vendors -- one selling parts and the other installing the parts.
First off, the rules allow and we encourage the posting of a factual account of any dispute or bad experience with a vendor after a reasonable effort has been made to resolve the issue offline:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/foru...-disputes.html
Such posts should be made in the Transactions Feedback section and I'll end up moving the above-referenced thread posted by the customer to that section.
Another issue involves hijacking a thread to take it away from the thrust of the original post and that seems to have been more prevalent in this thread, although it also occurred to an extent in the companion thread, including taking the thread into presidential politics.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/foru...hijacking.html
More importantly, however, this thread and the other is in conflict with site's vendor rules which prohibit one vendor from directly or indirectly commenting on the products or services of another vendor.
Those are long-standing rules designed to combat the so-called "vendor wars" that erupt periodically.
In this instance, it appears we have one vendor who supplied parts and another vendor who did an install. When something goes wrong in a situation like that, it's easy to start finger-pointing and blame-shifting. That is an exercise which just raises everybody's blood pressure without addressing the core issue -- figuring out what went wrong with a customer's car and getting it fixed in a way that it will stay fixed.
I'll discuss that privately with the vendors involved and will invite them to work together offline for the benefit of their mutual customer rather than slinging arrows online for their own benefit.
I'll also ask the vendors to report to me the end result so I can update this thread.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...weeks-wth.html
The companion thread was started by someone who had a complaint after dealing with two vendors -- one selling parts and the other installing the parts.
First off, the rules allow and we encourage the posting of a factual account of any dispute or bad experience with a vendor after a reasonable effort has been made to resolve the issue offline:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/foru...-disputes.html
Such posts should be made in the Transactions Feedback section and I'll end up moving the above-referenced thread posted by the customer to that section.
Another issue involves hijacking a thread to take it away from the thrust of the original post and that seems to have been more prevalent in this thread, although it also occurred to an extent in the companion thread, including taking the thread into presidential politics.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/foru...hijacking.html
More importantly, however, this thread and the other is in conflict with site's vendor rules which prohibit one vendor from directly or indirectly commenting on the products or services of another vendor.
Those are long-standing rules designed to combat the so-called "vendor wars" that erupt periodically.
In this instance, it appears we have one vendor who supplied parts and another vendor who did an install. When something goes wrong in a situation like that, it's easy to start finger-pointing and blame-shifting. That is an exercise which just raises everybody's blood pressure without addressing the core issue -- figuring out what went wrong with a customer's car and getting it fixed in a way that it will stay fixed.
I'll discuss that privately with the vendors involved and will invite them to work together offline for the benefit of their mutual customer rather than slinging arrows online for their own benefit.
I'll also ask the vendors to report to me the end result so I can update this thread.