[Z06] Zora for 2017
09-04-2014, 02:05 PM
#2
Burning Brakes
I'm kinda thinking it isn't worth me upgrading to a c7 or c7z - until AWD, as more power won't do much good when leaving the line. So the zora would have awd I hope and do 0-60 in the 2's. Does the article say awd?
09-04-2014, 04:40 PM
#3
Very good point. I was hoping for awd in the new c7 z but obviously not
09-04-2014, 05:30 PM
#4
Awd is the next step,the Zs have so much power but unless u go backwards in time and put 15s on back u can't come close to getting to the ground if they went awd I'd be first in line ,right now I'm staying with C6Z.
09-04-2014, 07:07 PM
#5
Melting Slicks
Purely gossip, but....
A friend of mine, who's aunt works at the assembly plant, was telling me that they're talking about twin turbos.....
A friend of mine, who's aunt works at the assembly plant, was telling me that they're talking about twin turbos.....
Last edited by erick_e; 09-05-2014 at 07:46 AM.
09-18-2014, 11:34 AM
#8
Le Mans Master
09-18-2014, 11:52 AM
#9
Melting Slicks
09-18-2014, 12:10 PM
#10
Le Mans Master
Unless you're confusing it with four wheel steering.
09-18-2014, 12:21 PM
#11
Drifting
It's semantics but...
4WD usually means the vehicle has a transfer case and the system is in 2WD most of the time unless 4WD is activated by electronic or manual lever selection.
AWD is "on" all the time, is usually a combination of 3 differentials either mechanically or electronically actuated to send power to the front wheels when the rear wheel slip is detected by wheel speed sensors.
That's how I understand it anyway.
4WD usually means the vehicle has a transfer case and the system is in 2WD most of the time unless 4WD is activated by electronic or manual lever selection.
AWD is "on" all the time, is usually a combination of 3 differentials either mechanically or electronically actuated to send power to the front wheels when the rear wheel slip is detected by wheel speed sensors.
That's how I understand it anyway.
09-18-2014, 12:23 PM
#12
Melting Slicks
No I'm not kidding, AWD is a more advanced form of 4WD. AWD is usually controlled and monitored by computers and is continuously on. AWD has the ability to send power to an individual wheel if it needs it or reduce power to an individual wheel if that wheel is losing traction. 4WD is usually controlled by the driver. By that I mean there would be a switch or lever in the car that the driver can engage and go from 2WD to 4WD or "4x4". This system is old technology and usually does not have the advantage of computer management or the ability to increase or reduce power delivery to an individual wheel. It's usually found on SUVs or trucks which is why I'm curious as to the reason they'd put it on the vette as apposed to AWD. I hope this helped. To your point yes, both systems deliver power to 4 wheels but the application is different, that's why I said they're similar but different in application. 
09-18-2014, 02:13 PM
#13
Le Mans Master
No I'm not kidding, AWD is a more advanced form of 4WD. AWD is usually controlled and monitored by computers and is continuously on. AWD has the ability to send power to an individual wheel if it needs it or reduce power to an individual wheel if that wheel is losing traction. 4WD is usually controlled by the driver. By that I mean there would be a switch or lever in the car that the driver can engage and go from 2WD to 4WD or "4x4". This system is old technology and usually does not have the advantage of computer management or the ability to increase or reduce power delivery to an individual wheel. It's usually found on SUVs or trucks which is why I'm curious as to the reason they'd put it on the vette as apposed to AWD. I hope this helped. To your point yes, both systems deliver power to 4 wheels but the application is different, that's why I said they're similar but different in application.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-wheel_drive
"Four-wheel drive, all-wheel drive, AWD, 4WD, or 4×4 ("four by four") is a four-wheeled http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle with a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powertrain that allows all four http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel to receive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine."
09-18-2014, 03:31 PM
#15
Le Mans Master
There's no way that's going to happen and here's why:
1.) A mid engined car would not be built off of the same platform as the current C7.
2.) Because of this, IF (which I doubt) a mid engined Corvette was in the works, it would have to be a new generation.
3.) If there is a new generation of Corvette slated for 2017, that would mean that the C7 had a lifespan of three years.
Because of this, the only conclusion that you can arrive at is that a mid engined Corvette won't arrive until quite a ways down the line, and then a ZR1 version of that would be even farther down then line.
That's all just my opinion, but I will post a video of me eating my hat (I'll need to buy a hat first
) if a mid-engined Zora comes out before 2020 (if it ever does).
1.) A mid engined car would not be built off of the same platform as the current C7.
2.) Because of this, IF (which I doubt) a mid engined Corvette was in the works, it would have to be a new generation.
3.) If there is a new generation of Corvette slated for 2017, that would mean that the C7 had a lifespan of three years.
Because of this, the only conclusion that you can arrive at is that a mid engined Corvette won't arrive until quite a ways down the line, and then a ZR1 version of that would be even farther down then line.
That's all just my opinion, but I will post a video of me eating my hat (I'll need to buy a hat first
) if a mid-engined Zora comes out before 2020 (if it ever does).
Last edited by Crabbers; 09-18-2014 at 03:42 PM.
09-18-2014, 03:38 PM
#16
taillights look like ferrari 458 units
body chevy malibu
c7 rear wheels
c7 valence
and autozone ricer mufflers
Last edited by el es tu; 09-18-2014 at 03:41 PM.
09-18-2014, 04:05 PM
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Yes, AWD is 4WD but it is a lot more sophisticated than 4WD. The big difference is that AWD is always on while 4WD usually has to be selected through some sort of switch or handle. AWD usually has a standard setup with most torque going to the rear wheels but has the ability to transfer torque from one axle to the other. So if the rear axle starts to slip torque can be transfered to the front or vice versa if the front axle starts to slip. With a limited slip diff in the rear that means it can it can move even though the two front wheels and one rear wheel are spinning if there is some way to control the front brakes then it can move anytime one wheel has traction. 4WD provides usually provides equal amounts of torque to the front and rear axles. If the vehicle a large number of them are not ordered with limited slip diffs so have the potential of getting stuck when both wheels on one side of the vehicle are in low traction situations. Limited slip diffs can reduce the chances of getting stuck but the main problem with 4WD is there is no way to move torque betwen axles. I have owned 2 AWD trucks and 1 Automatic 4WD truck. My Olds Bravada has a power split of 35% front and 65% rear and had a limited slip diff. It could go just about anywhere. My 99 Tahoe had automatic 4WD with a limited slip diff. When traction got low it would automatically shift into 4WD mode and send power to the front wheels. My 03 Tahoe has AWD. I am not sure what the torque split is but it can transfer torque between axles, it doesn't have a limited slip diff but it does use traction control to apply the brakes at each wheel to transfer torque from the wheel that doesn't have traction to the one that does. It also does pretty well.
The one thing you can say about any of them is they all have the bad characteristics of both front and rear wheel drive vehicles. For example when towing the Vette with the 03 Tahoe if I am climbing a hill with a curve and the transmission decides to downshift the sudden torque surge forces a significant understeer which depending on where the vehicle is located in the lane can force me into the next lane. The first time it happened I wasn't ready for it and the guy next to me had very good reaction time and avoided my transgression into his lane. The Bravada wouldn't do that since it only had a 160 HP V6 without much torque so it was tapped out as soon as it hit a hill.
From a track standpoint I think they add weight to the front, they add understeer and I am not sure they provide that much of an advantage unless there are a bunch of traction management aids that allow the power to be put down properly. A human driver with only brake and gas pedals wouldn't be able to manage the power going to each wheel and keep the car going in the desired direction.
Bill
The one thing you can say about any of them is they all have the bad characteristics of both front and rear wheel drive vehicles. For example when towing the Vette with the 03 Tahoe if I am climbing a hill with a curve and the transmission decides to downshift the sudden torque surge forces a significant understeer which depending on where the vehicle is located in the lane can force me into the next lane. The first time it happened I wasn't ready for it and the guy next to me had very good reaction time and avoided my transgression into his lane. The Bravada wouldn't do that since it only had a 160 HP V6 without much torque so it was tapped out as soon as it hit a hill.
From a track standpoint I think they add weight to the front, they add understeer and I am not sure they provide that much of an advantage unless there are a bunch of traction management aids that allow the power to be put down properly. A human driver with only brake and gas pedals wouldn't be able to manage the power going to each wheel and keep the car going in the desired direction.
Bill
