[Z06] Need Opinions! 2015 Camaro Z/28 TRADE
11-23-2015, 04:53 PM
#22
Instructor
The Z28 is stripped down man. No sound deadner, no trunk liner, no seat heaters, radio is the base piece of crap with only a few speakers, even the glass is thinner than the regular Camaro to save weight. Also plan on replacing the tires right off the bat cause the trefeos are about slicks already and you will hate them when they are cold or wet or on dirty pavement. It is a heavier and bigger car and you will feel it. It might be 20k off but they were wayyyy overpriced from the beginning. Id drive one first but do what you want. Sometimes a change of scenery is nice.
11-23-2015, 06:48 PM
#23
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I would do the Z28 if you need a back seat or plan on keeping a collector car. Since they didn't make many of them and given it's probably the last 427 car built....it does have some collector status to it.
The main reason that car is so quick at the track is the tires....and I would price a set out before you take the leap if you think Z06 tires are bad.
I do say given the power, and how little the car weighs the C6Z is still one of the best "point and shoot" street/road race cars GM built...bad heads or not.
11-23-2015, 10:26 PM
#26
Racer
I'm a HUGE Z06 fanboy, but let me bring up a few things to consider:
Here are the Car & Driver Lightning Lap times:
12 Zr1
2:50.7
14 Z/28
2:50.9
11 Z06/Z07
2:53.5
Notice that the Z/28 is 2 1/2 seconds per lap faster than not just a Z06, but a Z06 WITH the Z07 package. The suspension is using spool valve shocks, which is what they use in Formula 1. It is still a huge heavy pig at 3,800 pounds, but this pig can dance.
The Z/28 is NOT faster just because of the tires. Proof? Lets swap the rims/tires on a Z/28 and a Camaro 1LE:
The 1LE, on its stock Goodyears, completes the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.85 g average. On the Z/28’s Pirellis, the 1LE completed the figure eight in … 24.1 seconds at 0.83 g average. Not only did it not gain an advantage, the 1LE actually recorded a lower average g figure in the corners.
The Z/28, meanwhile, was hobbled, but not as much as you’d expect. On its stock Pirellis, the Z/28 runs around the figure eight in 23.6 seconds at 0.84 g average. On the 1LE’s Goodyears, the Z/28 ran the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.84 g average.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/on-ch...-make-the-car/
The Z/28 was only built for 2 years in very low numbers. I've noticed when one shows up at a car show, people walk right by the ZR1s and Vipers to check out the Z/28.
Its funny, I am just like the OP. I love BOTH the Z/28 and Z06 because they are so hardcore. The Z/28 is so hardcore that you have to add the radio back in as an option. The car comes stock with NO AC, and NO stereo system. That is the stuff of legend.
In the end, they are both hardcore bad *** track cars. The Z06 weighs less, but the Z/28 is able to turn considerably faster track times. It is more rare, and if I were choosing between the two, my money would go with the Z/28.
Here are the Car & Driver Lightning Lap times:
12 Zr1
2:50.7
14 Z/28
2:50.9
11 Z06/Z07
2:53.5
Notice that the Z/28 is 2 1/2 seconds per lap faster than not just a Z06, but a Z06 WITH the Z07 package. The suspension is using spool valve shocks, which is what they use in Formula 1. It is still a huge heavy pig at 3,800 pounds, but this pig can dance.
The Z/28 is NOT faster just because of the tires. Proof? Lets swap the rims/tires on a Z/28 and a Camaro 1LE:
The 1LE, on its stock Goodyears, completes the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.85 g average. On the Z/28’s Pirellis, the 1LE completed the figure eight in … 24.1 seconds at 0.83 g average. Not only did it not gain an advantage, the 1LE actually recorded a lower average g figure in the corners.
The Z/28, meanwhile, was hobbled, but not as much as you’d expect. On its stock Pirellis, the Z/28 runs around the figure eight in 23.6 seconds at 0.84 g average. On the 1LE’s Goodyears, the Z/28 ran the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.84 g average.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/on-ch...-make-the-car/
The Z/28 was only built for 2 years in very low numbers. I've noticed when one shows up at a car show, people walk right by the ZR1s and Vipers to check out the Z/28.
Its funny, I am just like the OP. I love BOTH the Z/28 and Z06 because they are so hardcore. The Z/28 is so hardcore that you have to add the radio back in as an option. The car comes stock with NO AC, and NO stereo system. That is the stuff of legend.
In the end, they are both hardcore bad *** track cars. The Z06 weighs less, but the Z/28 is able to turn considerably faster track times. It is more rare, and if I were choosing between the two, my money would go with the Z/28.
11-23-2015, 11:08 PM
#27
Tires do make a world of difference, just put some on my 300zx I track that and I give the Porsches a run for there money and I'm n/a lol but tires do make a difference if your qt a track that has a lot of corner's...
Last edited by RamAir972003; 11-23-2015 at 11:10 PM.
11-24-2015, 05:10 PM
#29
Drifting
Why not a new 2016 Camaro SS? It's just as quick as the Z28, handles just as well with the mag shocks and runs as quick as 12.20 with the A8 trains. (Per Hot Rod)
A 1SS with NPP, A8, and Mag Suspension runs around 40k (invoice) depending on any additional options chosen. Get the manual transmission and your under 40k.
A 1SS with NPP, A8, and Mag Suspension runs around 40k (invoice) depending on any additional options chosen. Get the manual transmission and your under 40k.
Last edited by acrace; 11-24-2015 at 05:11 PM.
11-26-2015, 01:39 PM
#31
Melting Slicks
If you're not impressed with your C6Z interior then it's gonna scare you the amount or pre bankruptcy cheap GM plastic lining the whole interior of the outgoing Z/28! Yikes , its very cheap and dated inside.. now a 2016 Camaro is beautiful inside. Hey but maybe it's about exterior and driving experience. Add one? Yes I would probably get a low miles ZL1 as a DD if funds allowed, but to trade my Z06 for one? Never in a minute. 
11-26-2015, 03:08 PM
#32
Melting Slicks
11-26-2015, 03:13 PM
#33
Instructor
I have both. C6 z06/z07, c7 z06/z07, and '15 z28.
In my opinion, the z28 is significantly easier to drive at the limit and it has higher limits than the c6 z06. It is a heavier car but feels just as fast in the corners because of the handling and huge as tires.
Straight line comparison is not even close however. C6 is a lot faster due to less weight by 600-lbs.
11-26-2015, 03:14 PM
#34
Instructor
I have both. C6 z06/z07, c7 z06/z07, and '15 z28.
In my opinion, the z28 is significantly easier to drive at the limit and it has higher limits than the c6 z06. It is a heavier car but feels just as fast in the corners because of the handling and huge as tires.
Straight line comparison is not even close however. C6 is a lot faster due to less weight by 600-lbs.
Last edited by Jeuprx-8; 11-26-2015 at 03:15 PM.
11-26-2015, 09:19 PM
#35
Racer
I'm a HUGE Z06 fanboy, but let me bring up a few things to consider:
Here are the Car & Driver Lightning Lap times:
12 Zr1
2:50.7
14 Z/28
2:50.9
11 Z06/Z07
2:53.5
Notice that the Z/28 is 2 1/2 seconds per lap faster than not just a Z06, but a Z06 WITH the Z07 package. The suspension is using spool valve shocks, which is what they use in Formula 1. It is still a huge heavy pig at 3,800 pounds, but this pig can dance.
The Z/28 is NOT faster just because of the tires. Proof? Lets swap the rims/tires on a Z/28 and a Camaro 1LE:
The 1LE, on its stock Goodyears, completes the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.85 g average. On the Z/28’s Pirellis, the 1LE completed the figure eight in … 24.1 seconds at 0.83 g average. Not only did it not gain an advantage, the 1LE actually recorded a lower average g figure in the corners.
The Z/28, meanwhile, was hobbled, but not as much as you’d expect. On its stock Pirellis, the Z/28 runs around the figure eight in 23.6 seconds at 0.84 g average. On the 1LE’s Goodyears, the Z/28 ran the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.84 g average.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/on-ch...-make-the-car/
The Z/28 was only built for 2 years in very low numbers. I've noticed when one shows up at a car show, people walk right by the ZR1s and Vipers to check out the Z/28.
Its funny, I am just like the OP. I love BOTH the Z/28 and Z06 because they are so hardcore. The Z/28 is so hardcore that you have to add the radio back in as an option. The car comes stock with NO AC, and NO stereo system. That is the stuff of legend.
In the end, they are both hardcore bad *** track cars. The Z06 weighs less, but the Z/28 is able to turn considerably faster track times. It is more rare, and if I were choosing between the two, my money would go with the Z/28.
Here are the Car & Driver Lightning Lap times:
12 Zr1
2:50.7
14 Z/28
2:50.9
11 Z06/Z07
2:53.5
Notice that the Z/28 is 2 1/2 seconds per lap faster than not just a Z06, but a Z06 WITH the Z07 package. The suspension is using spool valve shocks, which is what they use in Formula 1. It is still a huge heavy pig at 3,800 pounds, but this pig can dance.
The Z/28 is NOT faster just because of the tires. Proof? Lets swap the rims/tires on a Z/28 and a Camaro 1LE:
The 1LE, on its stock Goodyears, completes the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.85 g average. On the Z/28’s Pirellis, the 1LE completed the figure eight in … 24.1 seconds at 0.83 g average. Not only did it not gain an advantage, the 1LE actually recorded a lower average g figure in the corners.
The Z/28, meanwhile, was hobbled, but not as much as you’d expect. On its stock Pirellis, the Z/28 runs around the figure eight in 23.6 seconds at 0.84 g average. On the 1LE’s Goodyears, the Z/28 ran the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.84 g average.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/on-ch...-make-the-car/
The Z/28 was only built for 2 years in very low numbers. I've noticed when one shows up at a car show, people walk right by the ZR1s and Vipers to check out the Z/28.
Its funny, I am just like the OP. I love BOTH the Z/28 and Z06 because they are so hardcore. The Z/28 is so hardcore that you have to add the radio back in as an option. The car comes stock with NO AC, and NO stereo system. That is the stuff of legend.
In the end, they are both hardcore bad *** track cars. The Z06 weighs less, but the Z/28 is able to turn considerably faster track times. It is more rare, and if I were choosing between the two, my money would go with the Z/28.
11-26-2015, 09:20 PM
#36
Racer
11-26-2015, 11:58 PM
#37
I'm a HUGE Z06 fanboy, but let me bring up a few things to consider:
Here are the Car & Driver Lightning Lap times:
12 Zr1
2:50.7
14 Z/28
2:50.9
11 Z06/Z07
2:53.5
Notice that the Z/28 is 2 1/2 seconds per lap faster than not just a Z06, but a Z06 WITH the Z07 package. The suspension is using spool valve shocks, which is what they use in Formula 1. It is still a huge heavy pig at 3,800 pounds, but this pig can dance.
The Z/28 is NOT faster just because of the tires. Proof? Lets swap the rims/tires on a Z/28 and a Camaro 1LE:
The 1LE, on its stock Goodyears, completes the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.85 g average. On the Z/28’s Pirellis, the 1LE completed the figure eight in … 24.1 seconds at 0.83 g average. Not only did it not gain an advantage, the 1LE actually recorded a lower average g figure in the corners.
The Z/28, meanwhile, was hobbled, but not as much as you’d expect. On its stock Pirellis, the Z/28 runs around the figure eight in 23.6 seconds at 0.84 g average. On the 1LE’s Goodyears, the Z/28 ran the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.84 g average.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/on-ch...-make-the-car/
The Z/28 was only built for 2 years in very low numbers. I've noticed when one shows up at a car show, people walk right by the ZR1s and Vipers to check out the Z/28.
Its funny, I am just like the OP. I love BOTH the Z/28 and Z06 because they are so hardcore. The Z/28 is so hardcore that you have to add the radio back in as an option. The car comes stock with NO AC, and NO stereo system. That is the stuff of legend.
In the end, they are both hardcore bad *** track cars. The Z06 weighs less, but the Z/28 is able to turn considerably faster track times. It is more rare, and if I were choosing between the two, my money would go with the Z/28.
Here are the Car & Driver Lightning Lap times:
12 Zr1
2:50.7
14 Z/28
2:50.9
11 Z06/Z07
2:53.5
Notice that the Z/28 is 2 1/2 seconds per lap faster than not just a Z06, but a Z06 WITH the Z07 package. The suspension is using spool valve shocks, which is what they use in Formula 1. It is still a huge heavy pig at 3,800 pounds, but this pig can dance.
The Z/28 is NOT faster just because of the tires. Proof? Lets swap the rims/tires on a Z/28 and a Camaro 1LE:
The 1LE, on its stock Goodyears, completes the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.85 g average. On the Z/28’s Pirellis, the 1LE completed the figure eight in … 24.1 seconds at 0.83 g average. Not only did it not gain an advantage, the 1LE actually recorded a lower average g figure in the corners.
The Z/28, meanwhile, was hobbled, but not as much as you’d expect. On its stock Pirellis, the Z/28 runs around the figure eight in 23.6 seconds at 0.84 g average. On the 1LE’s Goodyears, the Z/28 ran the figure eight in 24.1 seconds at 0.84 g average.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/on-ch...-make-the-car/
The Z/28 was only built for 2 years in very low numbers. I've noticed when one shows up at a car show, people walk right by the ZR1s and Vipers to check out the Z/28.
Its funny, I am just like the OP. I love BOTH the Z/28 and Z06 because they are so hardcore. The Z/28 is so hardcore that you have to add the radio back in as an option. The car comes stock with NO AC, and NO stereo system. That is the stuff of legend.
In the end, they are both hardcore bad *** track cars. The Z06 weighs less, but the Z/28 is able to turn considerably faster track times. It is more rare, and if I were choosing between the two, my money would go with the Z/28.
You want to compare a c6 z07 to z28 lap time wise at least go by motor trend Laguna lap where the same pro driver, pobst, drives all cars. Going by his/MT times not more than 4 cars tops beat the z06 time there of 1:34.4 and they are either the zr1 or diff vipers haha. The Laguna lap time special is much better to compare cars if you can't to it the real way,...same day/driver.
Finally, I'll take the guy that owns both and a c7z to boot's word about the z28 being easier to drive at the limit, as my old man said also when he test drive a new z28. And I have no doubt a z28 may be more fun to daily drive over a c6z due to race setup and gearing but don't think for a min that a c6z with equal tires/driver won't b-slap a z28 around a race track....cause it will.