Hot Rod Magazine's Inside the new LT1
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Race Director
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#24
Le Mans Master
I never read any GM press release where GM said the LT1 makes AT LEAST 450. They said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 450 in their prress release. When the engine is SAE certified, then we will know the actual horsepower, but with all the dyno testing GM has done with the LT1, I strongly believe they know what the ESTIMATED horsepower is. If the horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480, they would have said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480. I doubt if there will be much, if any, difference in the LT1's ESTIMATED(by GM) horsepower and the SAE certified horsepower. Just as good a chance that the SAE certified horsepower could come in at 445 HP as it could be at 455 HP. That's why GM ESTIMATED the horsepower, not to sandbag us. What would be the purpose in sandbagging the horsepower when, in a couple of months, we will know the SAE certified horsepower rating?
How do you know GM is "baiting us" with the 450 HP they released? Do you have any GM dyno sheets of the LT1 you would care to share with us?
How do you know GM is "baiting us" with the 450 HP they released? Do you have any GM dyno sheets of the LT1 you would care to share with us?
#26
Ha!you hit the nail on the head for minor Hp differences.
Please list your name below if you could tell whether a car has 450 or 475 hp in a blind test??? I am being serious...
I know I couldn't in legal driving on road conditions.
Please list your name below if you could tell whether a car has 450 or 475 hp in a blind test??? I am being serious...
I know I couldn't in legal driving on road conditions.
#27
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I have both articles scanned and ready to go. Photobucket will not let me upload a pdf file though. If any would here would like for me to email it to them, so that they can upload it let me know.
#28
Burning Brakes
I have no doubt that if I drove a 450hp car, and then immediately drove the same type of car with 5% more power, I could tell which was a touch more powerful. I also have no doubt that I would guess the HP numbers wrong in a blind test, especially in a car that's 15% lighter than my daily driver.
#29
Burning Brakes
I never read any GM press release where GM said the LT1 makes AT LEAST 450. They said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 450 in their prress release. When the engine is SAE certified, then we will know the actual horsepower, but with all the dyno testing GM has done with the LT1, I strongly believe they know what the ESTIMATED horsepower is. If the horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480, they would have said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480. I doubt if there will be much, if any, difference in the LT1's ESTIMATED(by GM) horsepower and the SAE certified horsepower. Just as good a chance that the SAE certified horsepower could come in at 445 HP as it could be at 455 HP. That's why GM ESTIMATED the horsepower, not to sandbag us. What would be the purpose in sandbagging the horsepower when, in a couple of months, we will know the SAE certified horsepower rating?
How do you know GM is "baiting us" with the 450 HP they released? Do you have any GM dyno sheets of the LT1 you would care to share with us?
How do you know GM is "baiting us" with the 450 HP they released? Do you have any GM dyno sheets of the LT1 you would care to share with us?
#31
Burning Brakes
Part of it is just bragging rights and marketing, but more importantly: a little extra HP is always better than a little less HP when it comes to performance.
Ironically, though, your reasoning is correct in a sense.There may not be much of a difference between 450 and 475, just like there is an even smaller one between 450 and 436. That's why many of us want ~475. Because there IS a fairly significant difference between 436 and 475.
#32
Le Mans Master
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Try #1 , Crappy hotel scanner and my first time using photobucket if you dont like it...oh well...lol
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I hope so. In my scenario, I can't afford to buy a C7 with no discounts, which there probably won't be any to start. But there is a 2012 base coupe sitting on a lot here that I hope to get pretty cheap once the C7 debuts. And I will get a full factory warranty and 3LT and an LS3 and great mileage and a corvette and ........................... well, you get my drift.
#34
Melting Slicks
I hope so. In my scenario, I can't afford to buy a C7 with no discounts, which there probably won't be any to start. But there is a 2012 base coupe sitting on a lot here that I hope to get pretty cheap once the C7 debuts. And I will get a full factory warranty and 3LT and an LS3 and great mileage and a corvette and ........................... well, you get my drift.