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#41
The horsepower race is on its way to the 60's. Many of the people are incapable of
driving a 200 hp v6 safely. You drop them behind the wheel of a flimsy C7 and
ditches, T-poles, curbs, etc will flooding the insurance desks. Its just a matter of
time till the rates will kill these cars again. Just because the checkbook allows
the purchase does not mean the brain matches.
driving a 200 hp v6 safely. You drop them behind the wheel of a flimsy C7 and
ditches, T-poles, curbs, etc will flooding the insurance desks. Its just a matter of
time till the rates will kill these cars again. Just because the checkbook allows
the purchase does not mean the brain matches.
#42
Mine is less than the SUV. I don't ask I just pay just incase it is a mistake.
#44
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You're probably right. But, I find it interesting that the Kerbeck website (N.J.) has about 130 2013 Vettes to sell, and not one Z06. Criswell Corvette has a ton of Vetts to sell and I can see only 2 Z06's listed.
Who would pump out 70k + for a 2013 Z06 if the base C7 is almost a match performance wise? Where did they all go, did GM back off on 2013 Z06 production a while ago?
If the C7 base car is really somehow 450 / 450 at the rear wheels I would be shocked, and if true the poser moaner posters here will s*it in their pants (diapers).
Who would pump out 70k + for a 2013 Z06 if the base C7 is almost a match performance wise? Where did they all go, did GM back off on 2013 Z06 production a while ago?
If the C7 base car is really somehow 450 / 450 at the rear wheels I would be shocked, and if true the poser moaner posters here will s*it in their pants (diapers).
Now, much, much more emission legal ponies...
Sorry, but the basis for your theory is incorrect.
#45
Burning Brakes
(replying to both of you)
No, that's not at all what I said... I said that ultimately all that matters is the frictional force that the tire provides on the road. Obviously contact patch/tire width is one of many factors that influence that frictional force, but if the tire compound is improved enough and chassis is improved, etc, then a size of 285 on the C7 may be as good as (or better than) certain wider tires on the C6. That's certainly what GM is claiming is the case.
Obviously, though, with all else being equal, a tire with a 325 mm width will typically have better grip than a tire with a 285 mm width. I never denied that.
Where did you get those numbers from? Are those the numbers for the C6 that you're assuming will carry over? Modern transmissions I'm aware of don't typically have that significant of a difference in drivetrain losses.
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Actually, Kerbeck has carried very little Z06 inventory starting in 2010 when the GS which copies the Z06 wide-body style was introduced. For example, my 2010 Z06 is one of only about 550 made in '10. As an aside, my '10, with only a Halltech intake, repeated tested on a continually calibrated race shop dyno at 473-475 SAE rearwheel.
Now, much, much more emission legal ponies...
Sorry, but the basis for your theory is incorrect.
Now, much, much more emission legal ponies...
Sorry, but the basis for your theory is incorrect.
Enjoy your Z06!
#47
Do you believe that a C7 with 285 MPSS will have identical times as a 325 MPSS equipped C6Z06 or a 325 MPSS equipped C7?
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#48
AIR FORCE VETERAN
I have a Dyno tuned stock LS3 in my C5. The rear wheel HP was 401. There is a lot to be said about the net compared to the gross. The real test is when you stick your foot down on the loud pedal.
#49
Drifting
They mean that the car is rwd, not that power is measured at the wheels. GM will use SAE ratings at the crank. Most of those things are written for the general public that doesn't know about chassis dynos.
#50
Le Mans Master
[QUOTE=Kappa;1583066311]I've heard many a great review on this site.
Pilot SS's kick ***! Pulled my GY's off at 11k miles....wish I would have done it sooner.
Props to GM for the tire switch.
Pilot SS's kick ***! Pulled my GY's off at 11k miles....wish I would have done it sooner.
Props to GM for the tire switch.
#51
Burning Brakes
Whether they are right or wrong remains to be seen.
#52
Le Mans Master
The C6 Z06 is rated at 505, not to the wheels though.
#53
AIR FORCE VETERAN
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#54
Team Owner
An interesting observation. The only problem is no car company gives their rear wheel horsepower. Never did. There are to many variables. Transmission loss, losses from power steering, air conditioning demand from the charging system etc. that would be historically not so much currently. Why would you expect GM to do what no other manufacture has ever one? Not even the exotic world does that. I may have missed a brand and if I did please correct me and. give me your source.
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#55
Safety Car
Guys, everyone take a deep breath. There are no official #'s yet.
Let's see what the future holds. GM's statement's have been 450HP at least. We can all speculate what that means. We will find out soon enough.
Let's see what the future holds. GM's statement's have been 450HP at least. We can all speculate what that means. We will find out soon enough.
#56
It isnt 450 rwhp.
#57
Burning Brakes
An interesting observation. The only problem is no car company gives their rear wheel horsepower. Never did. There are to many variables. Transmission loss, losses from power steering, air conditioning demand from the charging system etc. that would be historically not so much currently. Why would you expect GM to do what no other manufacture has ever one? Not even the exotic world does that. I may have missed a brand and if I did please correct me and. give me your source.
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#59
Woot Woot for real next month? Been drinkin so my posts will be less contributive than usual
#60
Le Mans Master
I would hope that GM has low balled the numbers so that we can all be pleasantly surprised when the offical numbers come out