Originally Posted by 82CFI

Most here are not understanding how the OP got on the list ... it's just a list like any other list ... I could make a list and put your name on it so now you're on the list ... nobody can tell me not to put your name on the list.

Now back to this list that GM uses: you don't need to do anything illegal to get on the list. I'm making an educated guess that there are company(s) compiling these "exporter" lists and the data comes from data mining of public records. The OP is on the list because he shipped a Hummer overseas and didn't return it. The companies who compile the list don't care that it was a used vehicle OR a 5 year old vehicle OR not a GM vehicle OR whatever else criteria you want to insert here BECAUSE their automated web-crawler data mining (AWDM) software got his name from the shipping company's publicly accessible database.

The OP followed Dave@Kerbeck's suggestion to call GM and that failed so I have 2 suggestions for the OP if he truly wants off the list:
1) Call both shipping firms for the Hummer & Bimmer and ask them to remove his Bill of Ladings from their database or at least from their Internet facing database. THEN confirm it several days or weeks later that they were removed. THEN...
2) Call the list company (that's if GM gives him their name) and get them to delete his name from their exporter database. This way their AWDM software won't pop it back in there on the next scheduled pass.

What would be interesting since the OP knows he's on a list:
1) Go back to McMulkin and try to purchase a new Cruze. See if they refuse him. If they allow the sale then GM is using the list to only prevent sales of C7s or other high-end marque vehicles. The kind of vehicles the Chinese are crazy over right now.
2) Go to a BMW or Benz dealer and try to purchase a new vehicle and see if he is refused. If refused then this "may" show that BMWUSA and/or MBUSA use the same list as GM. Don't know what it says if he's not refused but it would make GM look bad.

Anyway, that's my .02

Originally Posted by laborsmith

My late father had a car built in Michigan and with less than a month on the road shipped overseas. Nearly three years later it was shipped back to the US. He was a career Army officer and likely met the same standards as your late brother. Has your post induced my anger: Yes, because it is not related to reality and is political in nature. And dumb.

If I mistook your post as anti US military, I apologize. But I reread it several times, and your reported respect for your late brother notwithstanding, I still read it as anti US military and this attitude upsets me.

You know your brother was not a criminal because he had the rank and years in service to have his personal car shipped to his overseas assignment yet you make fun of the program that allows this to happen?

Laborsmith

Originally Posted by jschindler

You make that sound very simple. The OP does nothing wrong according to all that is posted here and GM is effectively treating him like a criminal. If it was me and someone said "just contact them and tell them to fix it because it's wrong" I'd be filing a complaint with the Attorney General office and I'd do everything in my power to show people how GM thumps their chest at people who's tax dollars just bailed their *** out of bankruptcy.

I get that there are things we may not know, but based upon what we are being told that is my feeling.

Originally Posted by 82CFI

A feeling that most of us would share BUT with this specific incident, it's an emotional one. Same as what the OP is feeling but it's emotional and therefore difficult to step away and look at what is happening with "the other side of this story."

"Things we may not know" is explained in a link http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/02/...ype=blogs&_r=1 (page 9, half way down) provided by poster, Big Lebowski, to a recent New York Times article reporting on mass exports and exporters illegal activities. The article states that both the US Justice Dept and the states' AGs are going after the exporters on behalf and at the behest of the auto manufacturers. So, contacting the AG with your complaint would fall on deaf ears as they are doing the exact opposite.

The OP is on a list along with many other individuals and companies. GM chooses to protect their corporate interests by using the provided list. It's their policy and the AGs are agreeing with that policy when they agreed to pursue the "illegal" export traffickers.

Originally Posted by jschindler

Okay, so we are back to the issue of legality again. If the OP did something illegal he should be arrested. If not, why is he on the list? These are simple questions that don't seem to bed getting an answer.

Originally Posted by Racerdj

I didn't know GM did this.

Originally Posted by impala

If only GM was this proactive about all of the other BS some of there Dealers do to there customers!!

Originally Posted by badwhitecorvette

In my case I have done nothing illegal. I have not violated any GM or any other company policy. I never crossed any gray area at all. The cars were out of warranty and over 5 years old.

There is a company the collects and mines the 17 million U.S. bills of ladings each year and sells the data to anyone that wants it.

It's simple if you ship a car in or out of this country you are on the list period. It is that easy to be put on the "list".

Originally Posted by badwhitecorvette

Thanks to everyone for your support. I finally picked up my new Stingray. I told my salesmen Gino about what happened with Macmulkin and I asked him about the GM exporter list. He said that he had checked my name out in the system and my name did not come up.

Originally Posted by badwhitecorvette

Thanks to everyone for your support. I finally picked up my new Stingray.

Originally Posted by J18369

Curious why everyone has such a hard-on for MacMulkin? I got a quote for an order through them and they're $1000 more expensive than any other dealership. I guess that's the dealer fees they lie and say they don't have.

Originally Posted by Foxer55

Sounds like GM and NSA got ya!

Originally Posted by nh_mark

Congrats...now go out and enjoy it!

Originally Posted by Nitehawke53

Glad to see you pick up your new C7, Congrats!!

Semper Fi!

Originally Posted by Big Lebowski

Congrats man. Sincerely, enjoy it!