Classic Cars
#1
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Classic Cars
I love my new Stingray. But I must admit, I think my next car to add to the collection is one of the kit cars like a Porsche Speedster, Spyder, or Superformance Cobras.
There is something about the classic 50s Porsches and AC Cobras I love. They just have the timeless look. They are sexy @$$ cars.
Does anyone else feel this way about classic Porsche or Cobra?
Will the Stingray be there in 40 years too or will it not age well like, some may argue, a C4, C5, or C6?
Don't kill me. I'm not saying the C4, C5, or C6 are bad looking, but will the Vettes of the past 25 years hold up in another 20-30? What about the C7, arguably the best looking Vette yet.
There is something about the classic 50s Porsches and AC Cobras I love. They just have the timeless look. They are sexy @$$ cars.
Does anyone else feel this way about classic Porsche or Cobra?
Will the Stingray be there in 40 years too or will it not age well like, some may argue, a C4, C5, or C6?
Don't kill me. I'm not saying the C4, C5, or C6 are bad looking, but will the Vettes of the past 25 years hold up in another 20-30? What about the C7, arguably the best looking Vette yet.
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Le Mans Master
I love my new Stingray. But I must admit, I think my next car to add to the collection is one of the kit cars like a Porsche Speedster, Spyder, or Superformance Cobras.
There is something about the classic 50s Porsches and AC Cobras I love. They just have the timeless look. They are sexy @$$ cars.
Does anyone else feel this way about classic Porsche or Cobra?
Will the Stingray be there in 40 years too or will it not age well like, some may argue, a C4, C5, or C6?
Don't kill me. I'm not saying the C4, C5, or C6 are bad looking, but will the Vettes of the past 25 years hold up in another 20-30? What about the C7, arguably the best looking Vette yet.
There is something about the classic 50s Porsches and AC Cobras I love. They just have the timeless look. They are sexy @$$ cars.
Does anyone else feel this way about classic Porsche or Cobra?
Will the Stingray be there in 40 years too or will it not age well like, some may argue, a C4, C5, or C6?
Don't kill me. I'm not saying the C4, C5, or C6 are bad looking, but will the Vettes of the past 25 years hold up in another 20-30? What about the C7, arguably the best looking Vette yet.
I understand what you're saying....
In '62 I bought a new Vette, drove it for a while then I drove Porsches before they were popular - loved those cars.
Went back into Corvettes in 1990 and have been driving them as daily drivers ever since - short intermission with a CTS-V Cadillac - but went back to Corvettes, buying a C7, a few months back....
With all that said my stablemate for the C7 is an '88 328 GTB Ferrari.... as much as I love my C7 - and I do - if I had to choose between the two cars I'd choose the F-car. Fortunately, I don't have to choose...
#3
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I do agree with you that the Cobra and 50s era Porsche are good looking cars but I think my next collector car will be a C2 or early model chrome bumper C3. Give the other generation Corvettes time to age and they will come into their own like the C1, C2, and C3 have. All of which are desirable cars..
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If anyone could accurately predict what mass produced car will be a valuable Classic in the future they would be rich. No way right now to say how the C7 will fare in 20+ years.
55-57 Chevrolets were made in huge numbers and were nothing special at the time. Look what they're worth now.
55-57 Chevrolets were made in huge numbers and were nothing special at the time. Look what they're worth now.
#5
If I could match a classic with my c7, first choice would be without a doubt a 63 split window stringray with side pipes in Daytona blue!! Followed by a '66 GTO with three deuces in blue and finally a '70 AAR Cuda in B5 blue! Ok I'm done lol
#6
Have owned 64, 77, and 84 Corvettes. Liked the 64 and 77 but the 84 was a total disaster. I love the C7 but if money were no object I would call Shelby American and order a 427 SC Cobra Continuation Car.
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I love my new Stingray. But I must admit, I think my next car to add to the collection is one of the kit cars like a Porsche Speedster, Spyder, or Superformance Cobras.
There is something about the classic 50s Porsches and AC Cobras I love. They just have the timeless look. They are sexy @$$ cars.
Does anyone else feel this way about classic Porsche or Cobra?
Will the Stingray be there in 40 years too or will it not age well like, some may argue, a C4, C5, or C6?
Don't kill me. I'm not saying the C4, C5, or C6 are bad looking, but will the Vettes of the past 25 years hold up in another 20-30? What about the C7, arguably the best looking Vette yet.
There is something about the classic 50s Porsches and AC Cobras I love. They just have the timeless look. They are sexy @$$ cars.
Does anyone else feel this way about classic Porsche or Cobra?
Will the Stingray be there in 40 years too or will it not age well like, some may argue, a C4, C5, or C6?
Don't kill me. I'm not saying the C4, C5, or C6 are bad looking, but will the Vettes of the past 25 years hold up in another 20-30? What about the C7, arguably the best looking Vette yet.
#9
Melting Slicks
I hate to break this to you, but a very modern car like a C7 won't last 30 years - the electronic and computer based systems will fail over time (those neat touch screens and all of the computers and sensors that run everything) and there will be no available replacements.
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No desire for a kit car. The so called classics are nice to look at when attending any car shows but I have no desire to own one.
#11
Drifting
I'm itching to build a Cobra or Type 65 Coupe. That'll probably be my first retirement project. Factory 5 has a nice Cobra kit for about $12K and you need a late 80s or early 90s donor Mustang or you can buy the complete kit for $18K sans motor.
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I love the old classics (until I drive one). Then all their old tech and shortcomings become evident.
I grew up in the late 50's and 60's a fell in love with the Corvettes, E-Types and others of that era. I wax nostalgic for those old cars until I ride in one. Then I realize we are driving the best cars on the road today.
I would love to have a Resto E Type, but factoring in the donor and then the resto, I'll stay with the new stuff being sold and keep those fond memories of the cars I loved growing up as "fond" memories.
I grew up in the late 50's and 60's a fell in love with the Corvettes, E-Types and others of that era. I wax nostalgic for those old cars until I ride in one. Then I realize we are driving the best cars on the road today.
I would love to have a Resto E Type, but factoring in the donor and then the resto, I'll stay with the new stuff being sold and keep those fond memories of the cars I loved growing up as "fond" memories.
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St. Jude Donor '15
I don't have the money for the classics, and in the past have owned several C2, C3 Corvettes and a '67 Cobra. They were great fun in their time but I have gotten use to the creature comforts and ease of maintenance of the new cars.
The old Porsche Speedster was one that I always wanted and the kit car of it is appealing, but as a usable car it is pretty much worthless.
I'll stick with my C7, best sports/GT car I have ever owned.
The old Porsche Speedster was one that I always wanted and the kit car of it is appealing, but as a usable car it is pretty much worthless.
I'll stick with my C7, best sports/GT car I have ever owned.
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I admire the classics too. The things I really like about them about them the best is no friggin computers with no software bugs, lots of room to work on them. and no friggin metric tools!
#15
This is JUST MY OPINION, but I always thought pretty much all American manufactured 80's and early 90's cars were destined for the scrap heap. I don't like the C4's at all. GM, Ford, Chrysler, they were way behind the times in styling, HP, and build quality during those years (you can throw in the late 70's too, but the Vettes of those years still looked nice).
I'd still have a '69 Mach 1 or Boss 302 as long as it had air conditioning. They were extremely easy to work on, but nowadays, you'd spend more time working on them than you would driving them, and I'm not into garage queens. Any car I have is going to get driven daily otherwise there's no joy in it for me.
And I think the C5 outward styling is still relevant today. I might change a few things such as the lower front fascia to update it, and redo the interior. But the design itself has stood the test of time, IMHO. The C3's were great to look at too, IMO, but everyone I knew who had one said they were great when they ran, which was about 50% of the time. They were cars that needed to be worked on frequently and had all kinds of electrical issues. When I was looking into them I ran across a restorer and that's the first thing he did to them, ripped out every piece of wiring and rewired the entire car for more reliability.
The '67 Goat and the '70 Cuda would be cars I would consider as well if I had time and money to throw away.
And I love the interior of the Pagani Huarya (SP? however the hell its spelled). The completely exposed gear shift and all its mechanical bits polished to a high sheen is pretty awesome. The rest of the car, I'm not as impressed with. -- The interior of this one reminds me of a perfect blend between very old school cars and very advanced comfort and technology. Unfortunately one of these cars would rattle apart and be scraped to hell on our potholed roads within weeks of coming to these shores.
I won't buy a car with a nav unit for the very reason another poster mentioned. That kind of technology has a definite lifespan, and it won't last forever and will be expensive to replace. That's what a smart phone is for, and in my case, Sync Services (kind of like Onstar, but for Ford, though not as intrusive). If I am in an accident the car uses my phone to dial 911, and it provides navigation to wherever I want to go for $60.00 a year (first three years are free).
I'd still have a '69 Mach 1 or Boss 302 as long as it had air conditioning. They were extremely easy to work on, but nowadays, you'd spend more time working on them than you would driving them, and I'm not into garage queens. Any car I have is going to get driven daily otherwise there's no joy in it for me.
And I think the C5 outward styling is still relevant today. I might change a few things such as the lower front fascia to update it, and redo the interior. But the design itself has stood the test of time, IMHO. The C3's were great to look at too, IMO, but everyone I knew who had one said they were great when they ran, which was about 50% of the time. They were cars that needed to be worked on frequently and had all kinds of electrical issues. When I was looking into them I ran across a restorer and that's the first thing he did to them, ripped out every piece of wiring and rewired the entire car for more reliability.
The '67 Goat and the '70 Cuda would be cars I would consider as well if I had time and money to throw away.
And I love the interior of the Pagani Huarya (SP? however the hell its spelled). The completely exposed gear shift and all its mechanical bits polished to a high sheen is pretty awesome. The rest of the car, I'm not as impressed with. -- The interior of this one reminds me of a perfect blend between very old school cars and very advanced comfort and technology. Unfortunately one of these cars would rattle apart and be scraped to hell on our potholed roads within weeks of coming to these shores.
I won't buy a car with a nav unit for the very reason another poster mentioned. That kind of technology has a definite lifespan, and it won't last forever and will be expensive to replace. That's what a smart phone is for, and in my case, Sync Services (kind of like Onstar, but for Ford, though not as intrusive). If I am in an accident the car uses my phone to dial 911, and it provides navigation to wherever I want to go for $60.00 a year (first three years are free).
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#16
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I hate to break this to you, but a very modern car like a C7 won't last 30 years - the electronic and computer based systems will fail over time (those neat touch screens and all of the computers and sensors that run everything) and there will be no available replacements.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ket-parts.html
To summarize, certain C5 parts "specifically the EBCTM(Brake Control Module) and the Steering Wheel Position Sensor" are no longer available and its unlikely anyone will be able to make any. With the pace of change as it is, anything like a computer chip that fails and is past GM's 10 year planning horizon - you may be screwed. For the C5, these parts are already unavailable for 97 - 2000 models - so its possible to have a car that's only 15 years old that has a part that can't be replaced unless you are lucky enough to find a wreck in a junk yard somewhere.
Speaking of which, it might be a good time to be in the junk yard business with more and more cars that have parts where new replacements are not available at any price.
The other side of the coin is that if you have a C7 that's still running 30 years from now, maybe it will be valuable because there will be so few of them.
EDIT: I don't particularly care. In 30 years I'd be 84 and no male in my family that we know of has ever lived past 70.
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I had a C4 convertible for 18 years prior to getting my 2015 Z51 Convertible, and while the C4 was fun (and much cheaper) the C7 puts a WAY bigger smile on my face. I also own a cherry 1956 Bel Air and while that car is way cool, the C7 put a much bigger smile on my face last Sunday. And my project car is a 1966 Pontiac Tempest that I call "My 10 year project", that one when it drives by I want it to scare people with and will be a pro-street type build. When I want to drive a classic I will, no comparison with the C7.
The old ones have lots of parts available and I had issues with the C4 where I had to find parts, but I could because they are out there. I sure hope parts are available for the C7 for a long time as I will have it the rest of my life. Although I am considering purchasing a set of of magnetic ride control shocks and just put them on the shelf for the inevitable day I will need them.
The old ones have lots of parts available and I had issues with the C4 where I had to find parts, but I could because they are out there. I sure hope parts are available for the C7 for a long time as I will have it the rest of my life. Although I am considering purchasing a set of of magnetic ride control shocks and just put them on the shelf for the inevitable day I will need them.
#19
Drifting
My wife drove a '97 F150 pick up for 15 years. The ABS module went out at 12 years and it was not available in the Ford supply system. We finally found one on the shelf at a Ford dealer in Atlanta and had it shipped to Texas. Discontinued parts aren't a new phenomenon for the auto manufacturers.
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Burning Brakes
History tells us...
If anyone could accurately predict what mass produced car will be a valuable Classic in the future they would be rich. No way right now to say how the C7 will fare in 20+ years.
55-57 Chevrolets were made in huge numbers and were nothing special at the time. Look what they're worth now.
55-57 Chevrolets were made in huge numbers and were nothing special at the time. Look what they're worth now.