Help me become a better houligan
#21
Pro
You need to turn off the traction control.
Switch to track mode.
Press the center button on the mode dial twice. You should then go all the way over to the right selection - it will display in you DIC (center of gauge cluster); that will bring down the nannies to the minimalist setting allowing for hooligan fun to commence.
You don't 'slip the clutch' to smoke the tires; you'll smoke your clutch not the tires. Never, ever, ever.
Switch to track mode.
Press the center button on the mode dial twice. You should then go all the way over to the right selection - it will display in you DIC (center of gauge cluster); that will bring down the nannies to the minimalist setting allowing for hooligan fun to commence.
You don't 'slip the clutch' to smoke the tires; you'll smoke your clutch not the tires. Never, ever, ever.
#22
Burning Brakes
You need to turn off the traction control.
Switch to track mode.
Press the center button on the mode dial twice. You should then go all the way over to the right selection - it will display in you DIC (center of gauge cluster); that will bring down the nannies to the minimalist setting allowing for hooligan fun to commence.
You don't 'slip the clutch' to smoke the tires; you'll smoke your clutch not the tires. Never, ever, ever.
Switch to track mode.
Press the center button on the mode dial twice. You should then go all the way over to the right selection - it will display in you DIC (center of gauge cluster); that will bring down the nannies to the minimalist setting allowing for hooligan fun to commence.
You don't 'slip the clutch' to smoke the tires; you'll smoke your clutch not the tires. Never, ever, ever.
#23
Thanks for all of the feedback, well most of the feedback. Doesnt everyone hot rod their vette at least a little? On a side note, i am not fooling around on public streets, so no haters please.
#24
Pro
To clarify my point...
Hooligan, High School Hero, Burning Money, Donuts, Pennys, general mayhem~
You need to get out of the stabilitrack and traction control modes that control the wheel spin and body slide. Feathering the clutch WILL NOT over come the computer controls in place on the car. If you are in Eco, Weather, or Tour the controls are too high for this level of tire smoking mayhem.
Drag race starts~
You can use the Stingray's Launch Control feature to assist in the consistency of your launches through Track mode and the Competitive sub selections.
Feathering the clutch
The Stingray has enough horsepower to break the tire free at launch at will with the stock tires. The weight transfer from 50/50 to rear basis at launch is not enough to stop you from spinning the tires. The stabilitrack and traction control features which operate in miliseconds do have the ability to stop you from spinning the tires.
If you want hooligan tire spinning - you MUST turn down the traction control function through the Track and competitive mode selections.
If you want to get a good drag race start - where you want limited to no tire spin, you can use launch control or turn down traction control (as outlined above) and manage yourself through RPM, tires, track conditions, and clutch feathering.
A driver is not going to outwit traction control by feathering the clutch while traction control is active - this will not give the desired outcome.
Trying to smoke the tires - full hooligan mode - by feathering or riding the clutch is not the preferred method. This is high stress / slippage / heat / wear activity to the clutch, causes faster wear to the clutch, and in over use and extreme RPM conditions glazes the clutch and sometimes even the fly wheel resulting in a fried clutch that needs to be replaced and sometimes a new flywheel.
IMHO.
Once the clutch starts to lose grip from glazing or too much feathering at high RPM....
Hooligan, High School Hero, Burning Money, Donuts, Pennys, general mayhem~
You need to get out of the stabilitrack and traction control modes that control the wheel spin and body slide. Feathering the clutch WILL NOT over come the computer controls in place on the car. If you are in Eco, Weather, or Tour the controls are too high for this level of tire smoking mayhem.
Drag race starts~
You can use the Stingray's Launch Control feature to assist in the consistency of your launches through Track mode and the Competitive sub selections.
Feathering the clutch
The Stingray has enough horsepower to break the tire free at launch at will with the stock tires. The weight transfer from 50/50 to rear basis at launch is not enough to stop you from spinning the tires. The stabilitrack and traction control features which operate in miliseconds do have the ability to stop you from spinning the tires.
If you want hooligan tire spinning - you MUST turn down the traction control function through the Track and competitive mode selections.
If you want to get a good drag race start - where you want limited to no tire spin, you can use launch control or turn down traction control (as outlined above) and manage yourself through RPM, tires, track conditions, and clutch feathering.
A driver is not going to outwit traction control by feathering the clutch while traction control is active - this will not give the desired outcome.
Trying to smoke the tires - full hooligan mode - by feathering or riding the clutch is not the preferred method. This is high stress / slippage / heat / wear activity to the clutch, causes faster wear to the clutch, and in over use and extreme RPM conditions glazes the clutch and sometimes even the fly wheel resulting in a fried clutch that needs to be replaced and sometimes a new flywheel.
IMHO.
Once the clutch starts to lose grip from glazing or too much feathering at high RPM....
Last edited by Jack Be Quick Racing; 07-04-2015 at 11:25 AM.
#25
Burning Brakes
Like most everything, some common sense is assumed and that video is excessive. Here it is done properly. At around 1:10 to 1:20 is proper clutch feathering to initiate a burn out.
#28
Melting Slicks
Get a slightly wet parking lot and go to town
we got to do something like this at Spring mountain.
If you really hate your tires..
If you really hate your tires..
#29
Instructor
Sorry Road Rogue someone has given you really bad advice at some point and we don't want to spread it here!!!
Last edited by apex97; 07-05-2015 at 11:55 AM.
#30
Instructor
i don't want to be argumentative here, but i am a pro road racer,have also done some drag racing and stunt driving..and motorcycling too...there is no scenario on 4 wheels where "feathering" the clutch like a bike is a good idea. Certainly not in a car with more than 400hp to the wheels. It might be needed on some rice rocket with 90 hp to get it to the power band, or on a dirt bike climbing a steep trail, but on a car like the corvette you are just wasting friction material. If you persist in this technique you will quickly wear out of damage your clutch components. Most new corvettes will roast the rear tires without playing any games with the clutch..just turn off the traction control, hold the wheel straight, raise the revs over 4,000 get your eyes looking down the road and dump the clutch all at once. You dont even need full throttle. My c6 z07 will burn its pilot sport cup 2s through 2nd gear or more with no effort once you get them spinning. The guy in he video is using his left foot on the brake pedal to maintain a slower speed during his burn out....also mechanically abusive, but brakes are cheaper than clutches, sorry road rogue someone has given you really bad advice at some point and we don't want to spread it here!!!
#31
Once you're done being a houligan (sic) don't forget to replace your clutch fluid. Probably the coolant, brake fluid, trans and diff lube, engine oil, and maybe the windshield washer fluid too. No telling where that "clutch dust" will end up! You can prolly skip replacing the battery electrolyte.
#32
Safety Car
I don't want to be argumentative here, but I am a pro road racer,have also done some drag racing and stunt driving..and motorcycling too...there is NO scenario on 4 wheels where "feathering" the clutch like a bike is a good idea. Certainly not in a car with more than 400HP to the wheels. It might be needed on some rice rocket with 90 hp to get it to the power band, or on a dirt bike climbing a steep trail, but on a car like the Corvette you are just wasting friction material. If you persist in this technique you will quickly wear out of damage your clutch components. Most new corvettes will roast the rear tires without playing any games with the clutch..just turn off the traction control, hold the wheel straight, raise the revs over 4,000 get your eyes looking down the road and dump the clutch all at once. You dont even need full throttle. My C6 Z07 will burn its Pilot sport cup 2s through 2nd gear or more with no effort once you get them spinning. The guy in he video is using his left foot on the brake pedal to maintain a slower speed during his burn out....also mechanically abusive, but brakes are cheaper than clutches,
Sorry Road Rogue someone has given you really bad advice at some point and we don't want to spread it here!!!
Sorry Road Rogue someone has given you really bad advice at some point and we don't want to spread it here!!!
#33
Okay, i have read all the posts. Let me first state that I am not a kid, I have owned over 40 cars in my life time, many performance oriented. This car absolutely will not break loose. I have tried several times in track mode and "race" setting. Traction control off, active handling off, it feels like there is still some sort of traction control going on. I get a few, maybe 5 abrupt hops then hooks up, at one attempt, it felt like an rpm govener kicked in but I wasnt at redline.
#36
Melting Slicks
Okay, i have read all the posts. Let me first state that I am not a kid, I have owned over 40 cars in my life time, many performance oriented. This car absolutely will not break loose. I have tried several times in track mode and "race" setting. Traction control off, active handling off, it feels like there is still some sort of traction control going on. I get a few, maybe 5 abrupt hops then hooks up, at one attempt, it felt like an rpm govener kicked in but I wasnt at redline.
#38
Drifting
I just love watching guys wreck their cars on purpose for no reason.. like the guy in the 600hp cherry '69 Camaro showcar I saw burning out.. the tire blew and took off the back 1/2 of the car. Man that was cool.
#40
Regardless of the reasons the OP has not succeeded in breaking the rear end loose, if he tries it in another two weeks to a month, the temps will have lowered enough to allow all kinds of havoc to ensue.