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Old 12-02-2015, 12:08 AM
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Default Disheartening to see people not properly breaking in their Vettes

Since buying my new z06 ive been looking around on youtube to see proper break in procedure for the car (after reading the drivers manual of course ) and it kills me to see so many people doing exactly what they are not supposed to do and not breaking in their car as its meant to be.

(clearly see the 3.5K yellow line!)

(hennessey - clearly i thought they would know better!!)

(no comments on this one!)

I know it takes alot of will power to not push the pedal as soon as you get the car but how long does it take to drive around 500miles until at least the first stage of the break in is complete! No wonder GM is finicky about warranties!

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12-02-2015, 07:48 AM
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Well OP, you can already see there are lots of people who know much more about how to break in their new cars than the engineers who designed them. After retiring from the USAF, I sold the big 4 Japanese brand motorcycles for years. The guys who bought them all knew much more than the manufacturers did about break in. I would always go over the break-in section of the manual with the buyers. More often than not, these experts would leave the dealership doing wheelies and winding the bikes up to red line. This is one of the reasons I do not buy used cars or bikes at all any more.
Old 12-02-2015, 12:12 AM
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I had mine at redline day one. Unless GM starts denying warranty claims over it. Why would anyone care? the new motor is on them.
Old 12-02-2015, 12:36 AM
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Break in periods are no longer as necessary as they once were. Tolerances are so tight now, the motors are already good to go...

My friend bought a brand new 1997 C5 when it first came out and I remember the dealer was telling him about break in period when he first got in and started it up.. He responded by peeling out leaving the parking lot.

Having said that, if I bought a new one I'd still go easy on it for the first gas tank or so...

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I thought they were entertaining. I sure wouldn't want to be in car 1 or 3 though. Who cares, let em wreck their engines as long as they don't kill anyone besides themselves. I wonder if car 3 was going downhill.
Old 12-02-2015, 12:57 AM
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Not once have I seen an instance where evidence has ever been shown that there was a failure because the engine wasnt "broken in".
This is a relic from old engines that had lots of casting flash that needed broken in, which is no longer present on cars these days.

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This last video was a video game, not a real car! That's why it said GT5
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Originally Posted by wonka12_98
This last video was a video game, not a real car! That's why it said GT5
Thats when you know how good video games are now of days.
Old 12-02-2015, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wonka12_98
This last video was a video game, not a real car! That's why it said GT5
Wow, that fooled me. Game graphics are good.
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Break in your Corvette easy if you want a slow, oil burning car. I am a believer in the Motoman break-in.
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I know people say it isn't necessary, but I still do the "old time" break in.
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Motoman break-in for me too.. Has been for the last 20 or so years. Not one engine problem...
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Well OP, you can already see there are lots of people who know much more about how to break in their new cars than the engineers who designed them. After retiring from the USAF, I sold the big 4 Japanese brand motorcycles for years. The guys who bought them all knew much more than the manufacturers did about break in. I would always go over the break-in section of the manual with the buyers. More often than not, these experts would leave the dealership doing wheelies and winding the bikes up to red line. This is one of the reasons I do not buy used cars or bikes at all any more.
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Simply stated, I am just too damed old to do that. Also, not interested in a 180 mph speeding ticket.

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Originally Posted by BladeSilver2015
Well OP, you can already see there are lots of people who know much more about how to break in their new cars than the engineers who designed them. After retiring from the USAF, I sold the big 4 Japanese brand motorcycles for years. The guys who bought them all knew much more than the manufacturers did about break in. I would always go over the break-in section of the manual with the buyers. More often than not, these experts would leave the dealership doing wheelies and winding the bikes up to red line. This is one of the reasons I do not buy used cars or bikes at all any more.
Engineers don't write break-in procedures, lawyers do.
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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
Engineers don't write break-in procedures, lawyers do.

Post your source for this "information."
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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
Engineers don't write break-in procedures, lawyers do.

Say what?
Old 12-02-2015, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jerrysmith2048
Break in periods are no longer as necessary as they once were. Tolerances are so tight now, the motors are already good to go...

My friend bought a brand new 1997 C5 when it first came out and I remember the dealer was telling him about break in period when he first got in and started it up.. He responded by peeling out leaving the parking lot.

Having said that, if I bought a new one I'd still go easy on it for the first gas tank or so...
Maybe it is OK if you get it for free:

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Would be interesting to know how many guys fail to follow the recommended break in procedures (and there appear to be more than a few based on responses to this thread) and later start posting here about engine and transmission problems later.

Something not likely to be shared for fear of getting their warranty claim denied if revealed.
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Originally Posted by BladeSilver2015
Well OP, you can already see there are lots of people who know much more about how to break in their new cars than the engineers who designed them. After retiring from the USAF, I sold the big 4 Japanese brand motorcycles for years. The guys who bought them all knew much more than the manufacturers did about break in. I would always go over the break-in section of the manual with the buyers. More often than not, these experts would leave the dealership doing wheelies and winding the bikes up to red line. This is one of the reasons I do not buy used cars or bikes at all any more.
You do realize that the engineers do not write the warranty section of the manual? That in fact, the job of everybody involved is get as many cars out of the warranty period as possible while spending as little as possible in repair claims?

They do not care in the least, about longevity of the car, or how it actually performs. They just don't want it to break. The best way to ensure that is to tell people to use it gently. Is that best for the engine? Probably not. Is that best for the manufacturer? Probably yes...
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Originally Posted by MikeLsx
I had mine at redline day one. Unless GM starts denying warranty claims over it. Why would anyone care? the new motor is on them.
At first I thought what a deranged attitude!!! Then I remembered your corvette was given to you as a gift, so yes why should you care????

Remember it's not just the engine break in, Clutch, Trans, Diff, Tires. The C7 has a very sophisticated differential.

For all you engineers remember the basics on how new gears are lapped at the factory. However, they are not lapped under the same pressures that driving creates. The loads generated while driving force any microscopic high spots on the gear teeth back into the surface of the metal. This is called "work hardening". Work hardening is similar to forging in the way that it compresses the metal molecules into a very compact and hard formation. This can only be accomplished if the metal surfaces are lubricated and the gear temperature stays cool enough that the molecular structure does not change. If the temperature of the metal gets hot enough to change the molecular structure, it will soften the surface instead of hardening it.

I'm a firm believer in break in procedures, its mechanical not just circuit boards!!
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