Who is using PowerStop Z26 brake pads?
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300 track miles & 4000 hwy
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I have 300 HPDE miles and 4000 hwy on my Z26 Pads and NO issues. DOT coefficient of friction rated GG vs FF stock Brembo pads.
No fade in 25 min HPDE runs at Dominion Raceway (VA) and Summit Point (WV). Rotors were as hot as 450F after cooldown lap. Moutol RBF 600 brake fluid.
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So while you all are arguing over china vs US made after market brake pads, their quality, price, dust etc., what is the consensus on the chinese made wheels on our Z51's?
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As has been pointed out many times, but apparently not often read, it's not made in China that matters, its how it's made in China. When a product is sold at half the cost of any other comparable product, one ask to ask oneself why.
That's really what this whole debate boils down to, and there are no objective performance data for comparison purposes.
That's really what this whole debate boils down to, and there are no objective performance data for comparison purposes.
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Tough crowd here. I had them on for many months and the Power Stops have been great so far. Others are also apparently happy.
If you had a failure, or bad experience or removed them after you installed them - post that valuable information.
Otherwise, just don't buy them and go buy something else.
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Playing devil's advocate here...trying to be reasonable though...and just stirring things up a bit...
Has the Carbotech performance data been posted yet? Some members undoubtedly believe the Carbotech pads are better, BUT, if there is "no objective performance data for comparison purposes," and even if there is Carbotech performance data available, what is the factual basis for any comparison of Carbotech pads versus Power Stop pads besides the price and where they are made?
Foosh, I DO respect you and your opinions.
Foosh, I DO respect you and your opinions.
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Playing devil's advocate here...trying to be reasonable though...and just stirring things up a bit...
Has the Carbotech performance data been posted yet? Some members undoubtedly believe the Carbotech pads are better, BUT, if there is "no objective performance data for comparison purposes," and even if there is Carbotech performance data available, what is the factual basis for any comparison of Carbotech pads versus Power Stop pads besides the price and where they are made?
Foosh, I DO respect you and your opinions.
Has the Carbotech performance data been posted yet? Some members undoubtedly believe the Carbotech pads are better, BUT, if there is "no objective performance data for comparison purposes," and even if there is Carbotech performance data available, what is the factual basis for any comparison of Carbotech pads versus Power Stop pads besides the price and where they are made?
Foosh, I DO respect you and your opinions.
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Playing devil's advocate here...trying to be reasonable though...and just stirring things up a bit...
Has the Carbotech performance data been posted yet? Some members undoubtedly believe the Carbotech pads are better, BUT, if there is "no objective performance data for comparison purposes," and even if there is Carbotech performance data available, what is the factual basis for any comparison of Carbotech pads versus Power Stop pads besides the price and where they are made?
Foosh, I DO respect you and your opinions.
Has the Carbotech performance data been posted yet? Some members undoubtedly believe the Carbotech pads are better, BUT, if there is "no objective performance data for comparison purposes," and even if there is Carbotech performance data available, what is the factual basis for any comparison of Carbotech pads versus Power Stop pads besides the price and where they are made?
Foosh, I DO respect you and your opinions.
No, there are no comparative data, which was precisely my point, and I respect your views as well. I said earlier that I'm very open-minded, and it's entirely possible Powerstops will prove to be highly-regarded by all objective standards. We just don't know at this point.
Right now cost is the only data point we have. And while more expensive products aren't always the best performers, there is a very strong correlation between cost and quality when it comes the majority of products in any market. A suit purchased at Acme Department store for $199 may look and fit very similar to a $2000 Armani, but the former may come apart a few months later.
In this case, Powerstop undercuts the competition by such a substantial margin that it's hard to believe the only difference is the cost of Chinese labor. I'm not trying to denigrate the product, but I do think it's a fair question to ask why such a large difference.
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^^^ And that's the reason I have some skepticism myself. Testing them myself will definitely help me decide.
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Maybe Power Stop manufactures thousands of pads in an automated Chinese factory, while some USA vendor only ships 100s per year.....larger volume manufacturing can give equal quality product for less $
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Made in China does not always mean what it used to now.
They've come a long way and there's some smart China Manufacturers Manufacturing Quality products.
And, there's quite a few products made in China now by US Companies that Monitor and Control the Product Quality.
I presume there's other info out there on Power Stop.
But here's what I found for Information on Power Stop products.
Some Technical info too, for what it's worth ...
http://www.brakewarehouse.com/powerstop-research.html
They've come a long way and there's some smart China Manufacturers Manufacturing Quality products.
And, there's quite a few products made in China now by US Companies that Monitor and Control the Product Quality.
I presume there's other info out there on Power Stop.
But here's what I found for Information on Power Stop products.
Some Technical info too, for what it's worth ...
http://www.brakewarehouse.com/powerstop-research.html
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After having my Power Stop pads installed, I went from cleaning my wheels after every drive (with OEM pads) to virtually NO NEED to clean wheels.
I've have no discoloring of my rotors either.
I've have no discoloring of my rotors either.
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Carbotech 1521s are essentially the same, much cleaner than the OEM Brembos, which are track-oriented pads.
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I have the powerstops and like them. Will buy them again for the low dust. However I'm not bias to one product or the next, I'll tell it like I see it.
I said before I bought the 1521 carbo's and from day one they made so much noise it was ridiculous. Tried the powerstops. Installed them the same, didn't do anything different. No noise and little to no dust, easy to clean.
However someone in this topic awhile ago reviewed them for track use. I can tell you right now these are not for track use and I would highly suggest using a different pad for high speed runs or tracking. I'm confused as to how he could come to believe these stopped just as good as the stock brembo z51 pads??
I was roll racing the other day and during speeds of 125-150 mph these pads are HORRIBLE for braking. I'm not trying to take anything from these pads as they are great for low dust and sold as that, low dust pads.
For track I would go back to carbotech or hawks track pad or for high speeds at least the stock pads.
I said before I bought the 1521 carbo's and from day one they made so much noise it was ridiculous. Tried the powerstops. Installed them the same, didn't do anything different. No noise and little to no dust, easy to clean.
However someone in this topic awhile ago reviewed them for track use. I can tell you right now these are not for track use and I would highly suggest using a different pad for high speed runs or tracking. I'm confused as to how he could come to believe these stopped just as good as the stock brembo z51 pads??
I was roll racing the other day and during speeds of 125-150 mph these pads are HORRIBLE for braking. I'm not trying to take anything from these pads as they are great for low dust and sold as that, low dust pads.
For track I would go back to carbotech or hawks track pad or for high speeds at least the stock pads.
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Foosh (01-10-2017)
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Thanks for the good, honest review.
I don't have any noise with the Carbotech 1521s. I had a little noise immediately after installation even though they supposedly don't require a bed-in procedure, but after a few hard stops it hasn't recurred in 3K miles.
I also agree that the OEM Brembos that came on my Z51 are without question more suited for track use, I also believe the stopping distances are shorter, but I can't prove it. I had no place around here to do stop tests and measurements. However, they do dust for a reason, and the Brembo pads will go back on for HPDE. Carbotech is very clear that the 1521s are NOT intended for track use.
Thanks for the good, honest review.
I don't have any noise with the Carbotech 1521s. I had a little noise immediately after installation even though they supposedly don't require a bed-in procedure, but after a few hard stops it hasn't recurred in 3K miles.
I also agree that the OEM Brembos that came on my Z51 are without question more suited for track use, I also believe the stopping distances are shorter, but I can't prove it. I had no place around here to do stop tests and measurements. However, they do dust for a reason, and the Brembo pads will go back on for HPDE. Carbotech is very clear that the 1521s are NOT intended for track use.
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