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Old 01-17-2017, 03:37 PM
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Higher price.
Yes but a larger discount off MSRP...
Old 01-17-2017, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
That would be nice.


The Corvette is not a Muscle Car...the Camaro is.
What disqualifies the Corvette from Muscle Car club membership, exactly ?
Old 01-17-2017, 04:45 PM
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A A8 transmission that is reliable.......
I consider the A8 reliable. You can rely on it for a number of things...

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Old 01-17-2017, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem


I just can't understand why B.S. mirrors weren't originally put on the C7. They worked so well on my 2012 CTS-V it just seems like it would have been a no-brainer.
Tadge has addressed this specifically:

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Many of the questions on this forum relate to trade-offs in the vehicle design process. Side Blind Zone is a perfect example.

Generally speaking, we tend to err on the side of not having a lot of alerts that would interfere with the joy of driving. The SBZ feature was just emerging as a feasible customer feature as we were designing the 7th generation Corvette. We thought very carefully about including it in the program since we knew other vehicles were going to offer it. SBZ uses sensors located on the rear outboard corner of the car, just behind the fascia. That is precisely the location we needed to package our race-derived transmission and differential coolers. Having heat exchangers in the back corners interfered with both the physical space need for the sensors and disrupted their performance. In the end, we prioritized vehicle performance over a new feature that we were not sure would be a strong customer desire. We have gotten similar feedback from several customers asking the same question. SBZ does seem to be gaining good acceptance from customers so, although not feasible in the short term, we will strongly consider that customer desire in our future plans.
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Old 01-17-2017, 05:46 PM
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The above quote from Tadge is exactly what he told me during a one on one conversation I had with him at the museum bash in 2015.
Old 01-17-2017, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tcinla
What disqualifies the Corvette from Muscle Car club membership, exactly ?
Muscle Cars:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car

Sports Cars:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car

Corvette:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette

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Tadge has addressed this specifically:
Thanks for that.
Sounds like Tadge has a little regret about that one.

BSM are safety equipment IMO and should be on almost every vehicle.
Hopefully, the C8 will have a pair.
Old 01-17-2017, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tcinla
What disqualifies the Corvette from Muscle Car club membership, exactly ?
It isn't what disqualifies a Corvette from being a muscle car it is what disqualifies a muscle car from being a sports car. Muscle cars are limited to acceleration as their main performance feature while sports cars are well rounded and balanced with power, braking and handling complementing each other.

For example the latest iteration of the GTO was a heavy pig with a Corvette motor that couldn't turn when you headed into a turn at speed. The front wheels would slide sideways if competitive cornering speeds were attempted. You just had to brake hard on over loaded brakes (due to the weight) and get the speed down far enough so the car would turn Vs slide the wheels sideways across the track.

Bill
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
It isn't what disqualifies a Corvette from being a muscle car it is what disqualifies a muscle car from being a sports car. Muscle cars are limited to acceleration as their main performance feature while sports cars are well rounded and balanced with power, braking and handling complementing each other.

For example the latest iteration of the GTO was a heavy pig with a Corvette motor that couldn't turn when you headed into a turn at speed. The front wheels would slide sideways if competitive cornering speeds were attempted. You just had to brake hard on over loaded brakes (due to the weight) and get the speed down far enough so the car would turn Vs slide the wheels sideways across the track.

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Thanks for the education.
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I'd gladly sacrifice trunk space for an optional retractable hard top like my Mercedes.
Old 01-17-2017, 07:54 PM
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Interesting that the just announced 2018 Mustang will have the joint GM/Ford A10 transmission. I wonder if the A10 will now work it's way from the Camaro ZL1 into other Camaro models and other GM cars although I know it's been posted that the A10 may or may not be able to fit into the Corvette.
Old 01-17-2017, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
It isn't what disqualifies a Corvette from being a muscle car it is what disqualifies a muscle car from being a sports car.
That's an elegant way of saying it.
Old 01-17-2017, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by roadsterboy
I'd gladly sacrifice trunk space for an optional retractable hard top like my Mercedes.
Loved it on my XLR...although it rattled like he!!.

Originally Posted by MSG C5
Interesting that the just announced 2018 Mustang will have the joint GM/Ford A10 transmission. I wonder if the A10 will now work it's way from the Camaro ZL1 into other Camaro models and other GM cars although I know it's been posted that the A10 may or may not be able to fit into the Corvette.
Not likely to find its way into a C7 model...no doubt it is slated for the C8 though.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Muscle Cars:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car

Sports Cars:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car

Corvette:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette

Thanks for that.
Sounds like Tadge has a little regret about that one.

BSM are safety equipment IMO and should be on almost every vehicle.
Hopefully, the C8 will have a pair.
Not so sure about the blind side warning sensors. The C7 has good visibility, but not having adaptive cruise control with emergency braking is a convenience and safety feature that should have made the cut. Some folks do not use cruise, because they prefer the active driving experience. However, for a congested traffic commute or long distance travel, it's very nice to have. Fingers crossed. Pat
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
A A8 transmission that is reliable.......
I think you could sooner see 700HP than that happening
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PKI
Not so sure about the blind side warning sensors. The C7 has good visibility
We'll have to disagree on that one.
Although the C7 isn't as bad as my old CTS-V Coupe, it's still not very good IMO.
Once you have them and experience what they can do on a car it's hard to live without 'em.
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Mid Engine C8 introduced mid 2018 model year.

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Old 01-18-2017, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
We'll have to disagree on that one.
Although the C7 isn't as bad as my old CTS-V Coupe, it's still not very good IMO.
Once you have them and experience what they can do on a car it's hard to live without 'em.
Cool - I have them (on another car model) and don't really use them, but the wife loves the capability. We all have different preferences. It's why they offer options. Pat

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Old 01-18-2017, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by roadsterboy
I'd gladly sacrifice trunk space for an optional retractable hard top like my Mercedes.

I'm happy with the trunk just the way it is currently offered. The soft top on the C7 really is nice. Retractable hard tops always look out of proportion, even the Ford/Edsel retractable hardtops from yesteryear have cosmetic issues.
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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
A A8 transmission that is reliable.......
Oh please, respectfully


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