C7 Manual Shifter: Really that Bad?
#41
Pro
Perfect shifter. Just the way it should be.
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#42
Le Mans Master
The stock rubber mounts have vibration bushings that wear out pretty quickly. I you want to replace them, ZIP sells the urethane bushings but I recommend the aftermarket rubber bushings available from West Coast Corvette, JW Motoring, or eBay. They are larger than stock so when you tighten down the mounting bolts, they are stiffer than stock.
Rubber bushings: http://shop.jwmotoring.com/C5-C6-COR...?categoryId=-1
Polyurethane bushings: http://www.zip-corvette.com/catalog/...sing-bushings/
Also, what do you think of something like this? Would it potentially remove some play/slop in the stock mechanism (I'm assuming it'll fit the C7, correct me if I'm wrong please)? What I'd really like to see is one made of Delrin. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-up-C5-C6-Z06-ZR1-Corvette-T56-TR6060-bronze-shifter-cup-isolator-bushing-/251719793242?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a9bab3a5a&vxp=mtr
Last edited by Kracka; 02-17-2015 at 11:07 AM.
#43
Platinum Supporting Vendor
Thanks for the info! Do the polyurethane bushings transmit too much vibration, is that why you prefer the enlarged rubber version?
Rubber bushings: http://shop.jwmotoring.com/C5-C6-COR...?categoryId=-1
Polyurethane bushings: http://www.zip-corvette.com/catalog/...sing-bushings/
Also, what do you think of something like this? Would it potentially remove some play/slop in the stock mechanism (I'm assuming it'll fit the C7, correct me if I'm wrong please)? What I'd really like to see is one made of Delrin. 1997 Up C5 C6 Z06 ZR1 Corvette T56 TR6060 Bronze Shifter Cup Isolator Bushing | eBay
Rubber bushings: http://shop.jwmotoring.com/C5-C6-COR...?categoryId=-1
Polyurethane bushings: http://www.zip-corvette.com/catalog/...sing-bushings/
Also, what do you think of something like this? Would it potentially remove some play/slop in the stock mechanism (I'm assuming it'll fit the C7, correct me if I'm wrong please)? What I'd really like to see is one made of Delrin. 1997 Up C5 C6 Z06 ZR1 Corvette T56 TR6060 Bronze Shifter Cup Isolator Bushing | eBay
As far as the bushings, we made them out of poly for a reason. The rubber one that you see has a softer durometer than the stock one does and that is the wrong direction to go. It is also molded round, not oval like the original. We were offered that bushing as well to sell and decided that since it was not correct at all we would make the correct one since you can't buy the factory bushing. The Z car had a solid one and they also are great, so we went with a high durometer polyurethane that is made for us by energy suspension.
#44
Platinum Supporting Vendor
What I'd really like to see is one made of Delrin
#45
Le Mans Master
Thank you for the feedback, Energy makes quality pieces! Have you found any noise or vibration issues switching to polyurethane? Any chance you've had some made in black vs. red?
Last edited by Kracka; 02-18-2015 at 02:30 PM.
#46
same experience I have but just takes a few minutes to warm up and then is fine
#47
Burning Brakes
Stock vs MGW
Although it was probably my technique and lack of familiarity with
the new C7 shift feel, I missed the 2 to 3 shift several times while
running on track at Spring Mountain. When I got home and into my own car again, it also happened to me once on track, so I installed the
MGW (I had had one in my C6 Z06) and have not experienced the same 2 to 3 problem since. By no means an all encompassing test,
just my feel for it. The MGW gives me a more confident feeling.
the new C7 shift feel, I missed the 2 to 3 shift several times while
running on track at Spring Mountain. When I got home and into my own car again, it also happened to me once on track, so I installed the
MGW (I had had one in my C6 Z06) and have not experienced the same 2 to 3 problem since. By no means an all encompassing test,
just my feel for it. The MGW gives me a more confident feeling.
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#49
Platinum Supporting Vendor
I don't have any plans of making them in black right now. We chose the red because of energy suspension and I wanted them to be seen as being different. You can't see them once they are in the car though.
#50
Le Mans Master
*edit*
I read a few favorable reviews so I went ahead and placed my order through your website.
Last edited by Kracka; 02-18-2015 at 03:15 PM.
#51
Platinum Supporting Vendor
If you are going to put a shifter in a C7 you really need to use the bent shaft. It has a 15 degree bend on it. While the straight one will work, I noticed that the shift pattern on the C7 changed as far as the angle on which it is on the ****. You cant see any of the forward gears unless the shifter is pulled all the way back. NOW I know you don't or should not look down to make your shift but it is a little detail that bothered me. Attention to the little things makes the bigger things even nicer.
#54
Intermediate
I added a Hurst short throw shifter to my '08 Vert and after 6 months put the stock shifter back in; it was hard to shift and downshifting was a struggle. I love the shifter in my '15 Z51.
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#55
Intermediate
I forgot to say how badly the Hurst shifter vibrated and rattled; I contacted Hurst tech center and the reply was "they all do that".
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#56
MGW make the best shifter in my opinion
#58
That's why you go with a precision manufacturing company like MGW and not Hurst. There is zero rattle or movement in my MGW and all shifts are positive and quick. Again the stock shifter and primarily the transmission are a huge improvement by GM but, if you really want to jump through gears MGW is the way to go. I left the stock **** on so the install is clean and stock looking.
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#60
I've read lots of earlier posts that praise the performance and ease of installation of the MGW short-throw shifter. My question is: is the stock C7 shifter really that bad? - on a brand new"state of the art 7-speed? Is this something I honestly need to think about budgeting for? (Yeah, obviously I don't have my car yet and haven't test driven a manual.)
Another way of looking at this is when you look at the areas of the car that really contribute to the driving experience, the brakes, steering, shifting, acceleration, and handling, changing out the shifter is about the least expensive improvement you can make.
For me, the MGW shifter really completes the entire package. The car, especially between 3500 RPM and 5000 RPM, has ferocious acceleration. The brakes are easy to modulate and feel very solid. The steering, while lacking some of the feedback you would get from a hydraulic system, is very precise - it is very easy to point the car right where you want it. The car is very well balanced and the handling limits are very high. With the MGW shifter the shifting is now as precise as the rest of the car.
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