Anti-Siphon Grid out of position recall - Here's the service bulletin
#1
Le Mans Master
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Anti-Siphon Grid out of position recall - Here's the service bulletin
Ok, here's a copy of the service bulletin outlining the procedure.
If the grid has not fallen into the tank, .7 hours to replace the fuel inlet nozzle. If the grid is all the way in the tank, 12 hours to pull the fuel tank...
It will be interesting to see how the new part differs from the old one..I will probably just order the part and install it myself.... I should be able to get GM to reimburse me for the cost of the part, and it saves them labor cost.
Please limit comments to technical details, and don't clutter thread with whether your car is included in the recall or not..
recall14689a.pdf
Here is the original part with the grid removed.....also details in post 13
If the grid has not fallen into the tank, .7 hours to replace the fuel inlet nozzle. If the grid is all the way in the tank, 12 hours to pull the fuel tank...
It will be interesting to see how the new part differs from the old one..I will probably just order the part and install it myself.... I should be able to get GM to reimburse me for the cost of the part, and it saves them labor cost.
Please limit comments to technical details, and don't clutter thread with whether your car is included in the recall or not..
recall14689a.pdf
Here is the original part with the grid removed.....also details in post 13
Last edited by TEXHAWK0; 03-29-2015 at 11:52 AM.
#2
Le Mans Master
Downloading now, thanks for sharing.
#3
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I ordered and installed the new filler nozzle myself this morning...
You can do it through the wheel well, but it was difficult to release the fuel vapor hose and the rubber hose to the fuel tank within the tight space. The hose clamp came loose easily, but the hose had bonded to the old neck and took some work to get it unstuck..
Here is the old part..The new grid looks like it is glued in where the old one had an exposed edge I could feel with my fingernail...
You can do it through the wheel well, but it was difficult to release the fuel vapor hose and the rubber hose to the fuel tank within the tight space. The hose clamp came loose easily, but the hose had bonded to the old neck and took some work to get it unstuck..
Here is the old part..The new grid looks like it is glued in where the old one had an exposed edge I could feel with my fingernail...
#4
I ordered and installed the new filler nozzle myself this morning...
You can do it through the wheel well, but it was difficult to release the fuel vapor hose and the rubber hose to the fuel tank within the tight space. The hose clamp came loose easily, but the hose had bonded to the old neck and took some work to get it unstuck..
Here is the old part..The new grid looks like it is glued in where the old one had an exposed edge I could feel with my fingernail...
You can do it through the wheel well, but it was difficult to release the fuel vapor hose and the rubber hose to the fuel tank within the tight space. The hose clamp came loose easily, but the hose had bonded to the old neck and took some work to get it unstuck..
Here is the old part..The new grid looks like it is glued in where the old one had an exposed edge I could feel with my fingernail...
#5
I ordered and installed the new filler nozzle myself this morning...
You can do it through the wheel well, but it was difficult to release the fuel vapor hose and the rubber hose to the fuel tank within the tight space. The hose clamp came loose easily, but the hose had bonded to the old neck and took some work to get it unstuck..
Here is the old part..The new grid looks like it is glued in where the old one had an exposed edge I could feel with my fingernail...
You can do it through the wheel well, but it was difficult to release the fuel vapor hose and the rubber hose to the fuel tank within the tight space. The hose clamp came loose easily, but the hose had bonded to the old neck and took some work to get it unstuck..
Here is the old part..The new grid looks like it is glued in where the old one had an exposed edge I could feel with my fingernail...
#7
Melting Slicks
Just went to the garage to see if you can do a visual inspection of this grid. Takes two screw drivers: 1) push open the first spring loaded door with a short flat bladed screw driver. 2) take a smaller longer flat blade and you can open the second door in the tube with your other hand. 3) I had a small LED flash light that I was holding in my mouth so I could shine down the tube. And Bingo, my siphon grid is in tact!
Not so thrilled about my GM dealer taking my car apart, so until this thing moves, I am staying put. Go check your car before you take it in!
Not so thrilled about my GM dealer taking my car apart, so until this thing moves, I am staying put. Go check your car before you take it in!
#8
Pro
Just went to the garage to see if you can do a visual inspection of this grid. Takes two screw drivers: 1) push open the first spring loaded door with a short flat bladed screw driver. 2) take a smaller longer flat blade and you can open the second door in the tube with your other hand. 3) I had a small LED flash light that I was holding in my mouth so I could shine down the tube. And Bingo, my siphon grid is in tact!
Not so thrilled about my GM dealer taking my car apart, so until this thing moves, I am staying put. Go check your car before you take it in!
Not so thrilled about my GM dealer taking my car apart, so until this thing moves, I am staying put. Go check your car before you take it in!
#9
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Just went to the garage to see if you can do a visual inspection of this grid. Takes two screw drivers: 1) push open the first spring loaded door with a short flat bladed screw driver. 2) take a smaller longer flat blade and you can open the second door in the tube with your other hand. 3) I had a small LED flash light that I was holding in my mouth so I could shine down the tube. And Bingo, my siphon grid is in tact!
Not so thrilled about my GM dealer taking my car apart, so until this thing moves, I am staying put. Go check your car before you take it in!
Not so thrilled about my GM dealer taking my car apart, so until this thing moves, I am staying put. Go check your car before you take it in!
#10
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Removing the fender would have made it easier, but not necessary.
#11
Melting Slicks
Nearly 12 hrs of labor to remove the tank if the grid has dropped out!
I’d guess GM is crossing it’s fingers hoping few have had that happen. Ouch, very expensive.
Other than eliminating the anti siphon feature does a grid that has fallen into the tank cause any other issues? Don
I’d guess GM is crossing it’s fingers hoping few have had that happen. Ouch, very expensive.
Other than eliminating the anti siphon feature does a grid that has fallen into the tank cause any other issues? Don
#12
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Nearly 12 hrs of labor to remove the tank if the grid has dropped out!
I’d guess GM is crossing it’s fingers hoping few have had that happen. Ouch, very expensive.
Other than eliminating the anti siphon feature does a grid that has fallen into the tank cause any other issues? Don
I’d guess GM is crossing it’s fingers hoping few have had that happen. Ouch, very expensive.
Other than eliminating the anti siphon feature does a grid that has fallen into the tank cause any other issues? Don
The only other things in the fuel tank is the fuel pump and the fuel level float with some jet siphoning going on between tanks... How lucky do you feel that it will not end up in the wrong place?
#13
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Here is the inlet pipe without the grid...
It just presses up against a shoulder of the insert from above...
On the recall replacement I saw, it looked like they shortened the shoulder so the grid would press in a bit further, but still just pressed in.
The inlet pipe I ordered under the non-assembly number (23456468), looked to be pressed in all the way and glued in, so that fix may actually be better than the "official" fix under the recall assembly number..
What the updated part SHOULD look like...(no grid at all!)
It just presses up against a shoulder of the insert from above...
On the recall replacement I saw, it looked like they shortened the shoulder so the grid would press in a bit further, but still just pressed in.
The inlet pipe I ordered under the non-assembly number (23456468), looked to be pressed in all the way and glued in, so that fix may actually be better than the "official" fix under the recall assembly number..
What the updated part SHOULD look like...(no grid at all!)
Last edited by TEXHAWK0; 03-30-2015 at 10:12 AM.
#15
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I traded in a mint condition C5Z06 that I had for 10 years, and a couple of days later I saw it at the dealer and someone had run one of the wheels up against the curb and ruined it. The mechanic may do good work, but who else is driving it around the lot?
#17
Mine is in now for the anti siphon recall today. They have to drop the tank and I am traveling for work for 4 days. Told them no joyriding and noted the mileage, crossing my fingers.
#18
Safety Car
Why can't I just remove the anti siphon grid?
If it falls in on its own, then what purpose is it serving? Obviously someone attempting to siphon fuel would be able to push it in.
If it falls in on its own, then what purpose is it serving? Obviously someone attempting to siphon fuel would be able to push it in.
#19
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
However, if you ever take your car to a dealer for service, and they see the grid is missing, they may end up trying to drop the fuel tank to look for the grid according to the recall...
The good part is, you would never have to worry about the grid coming out, and it would probably solve some of the refueling problems some people have experienced.
The whole purpose of the recall is to make sure the grid has not fallen into the tank, not so much to keep people from siphoning your gas.
You are right that a determined thief could knock the grid out since it is just pressed in, and not glued in or against a shoulder on the bottom side.
Last edited by TEXHAWK0; 03-30-2015 at 10:33 AM.