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Just curious if installing the MGW, or any of the short shifters for that matter cause the warranty to be void ? having just purchased our 2016 C7 with only 2740 miles on the clock,it obviously still has the factory warranty and we purchased an extended aftermarket warranty. thanks Scott
If your modification can be shown to be the cause of any issue you're trying to address via a warranty claim, that warranty claim will likely be denied.
For instance, if you bring a car in for warranty work claiming there is excessive noise coming from the shifter area, the fact that you have a short shifter will likely cause this warranty claim to be denied.
However, if your warranty work is to repair a faulty taillight, an after-market short shifter should not cause reason for this warranty claim to be denied.
You guys are a bad influence!!! I told myself no mods for a little while since I just bought the car and had a bunch of other expenses to deal with! Here I am reading how great this shifter is and it's the only complaint I have on the car so yup, just went and bought my own MGW!
Dan
Man i had a nice long post comparing th MGW and Hinson and my phone messed up and deleted it (prob for the best anyway.). I've had both on the same '16 C7. MGW is better. That is all
there is NO comparison to MGW. If you own a c7 M7 and don't have one of these you are MISSING out. no other way to put it. It is the best driving experience mod you can do..
I equate the MGW shifter to a bolt action rifle. It is so much better than the stock shifter. Much shorter throw allows for much quicker and more precise shifting. It is a very solid product.
It also seems like with some of these mods...people sing their praises but when you push them on 'are there issues' they start to admit some faults that don't get mentioned. Anything like that with the MGWs? Seems hard to go back to stock so I'm concerned about putting one in.
I'm not sure if this is due to the MGW shifter, or that I just never pay attention until after I install it, but it seems to me that heat from the transmission tunnel, referring to the area below the shifter, gets into the cabin a little easier than before. I only notice this because during the install you need to place heat shield pads in the area, but you couldn't possibly cover all the areas. Like I said, I'm only 50% certain that the MGW causes this, but I would be interested to know if others have the same impression. But overall I still like the flat stick shifter a lot. It was actually a fun install. Makes me feel more mechanically talented than I actually am. The instructions and video are very helpful.
I equate the MGW shifter to a bolt action rifle. It is so much better than the stock shifter. Much shorter throw allows for much quicker and more precise shifting. It is a very solid product.
I wouldn't go that far. I mean when I use the stock shifter at Ron Fellow corvette school, the stock shifter performs perfectly without a single mis-shift. The stock shifter is actually really good already IMHO. It's just that for daily driving the MGW is even better.
[QUOTE=joemosfet;1592917041]Technically, the amount of effort required is the same (energy in, energy out, and all that).
However, because the travel is lessened, it actually feels like less effort to shift - I can move my wrist only, I don't need to move my arm.
What are you talking about??? Does not sound like any engineering principles I ever heard.
When you shorten the throw (lever arm) you WILL see an increase in shift effort.. The force to shift the transmission is the same, but your leverage is reduced. Just a matter of geometry and physics.
Decreasing the throw by 1/3 (say 3 inches to 2 inches) will increase the shift effort by about 1-1/2 times...
I liked the Coreshifters Hurst so much, I transferred it from my 2004 Z06 to my 2014 Stingray..
What are you talking about??? Does not sound like any engineering principles I ever heard.
It's a law of thermodynamics. It takes X amount of energy to change the gear, regardless of how the lever is attached to it.
The amount of pressure is reduced by having a lever, but the distance the lever has to move is increased (proportionally) and thus the same amount of energy is being transferred (ignoring friction losses), just over a longer throw.
Shorten the throw, that same amount of energy is required, its just less throw. So more "instant" effort is required, but the amount of travel is lessened, and thus the net energy use is the same, in the end (again, discounting for any differences in frictional inefficiencies, torque-absorbing flex, etc).
Last edited by joemosfet; 09-07-2016 at 08:18 PM.
Reason: I'm an engineer, not a spelleler...
It's a law of thermodynamics. It takes X amount of energy to change the gear, regardless of how the lever is attached to it.
The amount of pressure is reduced by having a lever, but the distance the lever has to move is increased (proportionally) and thus the same amount of energy is being transferred (ignoring friction losses), just over a longer throw.
Shorten the throw, that same amount of energy is required, its just less throw. So more "instant" effort is required, but the amount of travel is lessened, and thus the net energy use is the same, in the end (again, discounting for any differences in frictional inefficiencies, torque-absorbing flex, etc).
Don't confuse energy or work with force. The increase in Force is what you feel. The work done is the Force times the distance moved. The work done in each end of the shifter is the same, but if you shorten the distance (throw), the Force required increases.
Theoretically, you could make the throw so short you would not be able to move the shifter, even though the "work" is the same.
I'll probably get crap about being a cheap bassturd like others have handed out in previous threads - like: "I can't believe you buy a $100K car and want a discount on parts!"
I have no argument with that ...
Maybe shopping sales and discounts on some item is how one is able to acquire the more expensive toys
...I saved my pennies and I saved my dimes...and I bought me that 409....
You guys talked me into it, I bought the MGW and it is a great upgrade. The shifting is much more precise. Install took just over 2 hours as I had rerouted the wires in the wrong location under the center counsel. Make sure you keep the wires clear of the space where the cup holders are or the counsel won't go back in!! Otherwise it went smooth
Dan
New to C7's. Does the MGW eliminate the 1st to 4th "problem" or do you still need to install the little doodad that eliminates that issue? As you can see, I'm highly technical.
08-25-2016, 12:30 PM
Does not sound like any engineering principles I ever heard.
