DSC-Sport suspension pricing released and Katech pre-order started
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DSC-Sport suspension pricing released and Katech pre-order started
I'm very excited about this new suspension system. I think this is going to be the hottest new thing for street, drag race and road race. I'm about to install the system on my car and test as soon as the weather clears.
DSC-Sport V2 Controller $1290
http://store.katechengines.com/dsc-s...ller-p520.aspx
DSC-Sport RT Shocks $4900
http://store.katechengines.com/dsc-s...ocks-p521.aspx
DSC-Sport RTx Shocks $6900
http://store.katechengines.com/dsc-s...ocks-p522.aspx
Concerned about doing the calibration yourself? We will be providing calibrations done by Michael Levitas, IMSA Porsche GT3 driver for TPC Racing. Michael has his own C7 Z06 test car and has been doing testing with his good friend Randy Pobst. The software is easy to use. Here is a video:
DSC-Sport V2 Controller $1290
http://store.katechengines.com/dsc-s...ller-p520.aspx
DSC-Sport RT Shocks $4900
http://store.katechengines.com/dsc-s...ocks-p521.aspx
DSC-Sport RTx Shocks $6900
http://store.katechengines.com/dsc-s...ocks-p522.aspx
Concerned about doing the calibration yourself? We will be providing calibrations done by Michael Levitas, IMSA Porsche GT3 driver for TPC Racing. Michael has his own C7 Z06 test car and has been doing testing with his good friend Randy Pobst. The software is easy to use. Here is a video:
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07-21-2016, 03:18 PM
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since the controller is so easy to install, there is no excuse for not having a lap with the stock controller, then just putting in the dsc controller immediately seeing how it affects lap times. ideally an unbiased driver. Frankly it is a bit suspicious that this has not been done. If it had been done and the difference was impressive i think they would be shouting it from the hilltops. The fact that there is silence regarding this simple test, kind of speaks volumes. It reminds me of my research regarding if carbon revolution wheels have a significant performance advantage. I searched extensively, and there is no test where they do a lap, swap wheels and then compare lap times. I realized that there must not be any significant performance advantage. I have not done nearly as extensive research for the DSC, but i have checked the company web site, and the porsche forums, and corvetteforum, and i dont see that this simple and revealing test has been done. Its kind of frustrating. I mean, you have randy pobst driving, just have him do two laps, one with the controller and one without, seriously, WTF? Do that or stop wasting my time with these marketing threads with pages and pages of gobblygook and no cold hard results that could be obtained from a VERY SIMPLE test.
1. We're a small company in its infancy with a small personnel and limited resources. Conducting such tests is not cheap. At the least, we would need to rent a track and hire a driver, neither of which are low cost. While you're not the first person to suggest such a test, the number of requests we've had for this is still quite small. Spending the money to administer such a test to publish via our current platform (effectively reaching the same audience we already are) wouldn't offer much of a ROI. Typically if we're renting a track (with or without a driver), we are devoting all of that time to product development and testing, as this is what's most important for our growth at the moment.
2. Nowhere else in the industry is this a standard practice.
It reminds me of my research regarding if carbon revolution wheels have a significant performance advantage. I searched extensively, and there is no test where they do a lap, swap wheels and then compare lap times.
3. DSC Sport is not simply about lap times. It's very much about the driver's experience. It provides a more comfortable/compliant ride on the street; a lap time won't speak to this. It also instills greater confidence when on track. While this may help improve lap time, it's not necessarily a quantifiable value.
4. You mention how it would be ideal to have an unbiased driver. Obviously, we would be expected to eliminate bias across the board. In administering the the test/experiment ourselves, we would surely open ourselves up to criticism of bias from people for merely being involved in the test.
5. Results will vary. Someone like Randy Pobst can drive a car that has some instability and still squeeze out an amazing lap time. So someone such as Randy may only squeeze a small improvement in lap time out of something like DSC Sport, but it may make achieving that laptime MUCH easier. On the other hand, for your enthusiast driver, who makes up the vast majority of our market, they might be able to squeeze 2-3 seconds just because they now have the confidence to drive the car that much closer to the limit.
For what it's worth, we always encourage our users to bring a factory unit with them to the track and do a back-to-back comparison, whether just for themselves or to share with the community. On the Porsche 9x7 platform (largest sample of data), we've had many users report a gain of 2-3 seconds on tracks such as Sebring for instance. But again, results will vary.
I have also pitched this idea for a test to multiple publications, but no one has bitten yet. If you feel passionate about the need for such a test, I highly encourage you to contact your favorite publication and request that they do a piece on it. We'll be more than happy to provide the necessary equipment and assist with logistics and cost in such a case. In this scenario, the cost is more justifiable, because not only would we now have these results, we would be reaching new audiences as well.
Lastly, I'm sorry that you feel we are wasting your time by promoting our product in a public forum. With that said, may I remind you that we are not the OP on this thread, and we typically leave this thread up to Katech and users/interested forum members to maintain. I don't think we've over saturated this forum in any way with "pages of gobblygook." If you feel the information we provide is inadequate, you are more than welcome to cease reading the thread at your leisure and not purchase the product. Of course, we hope down the road that the product will prove itself and you will be convinced otherwise. However, ultimately the choice is yours.
~Jordan
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i have the DSC dampeners on my Gen V Viper and boy what a difference. This system is amazing, the car really handles and pushes back in turns like you wouldn't believe. definitely worth the money.
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Both Mike Levitas and I have non-Z07 cars with this system on it but I know the first car he installed it on was a Z07 car.
I'll finally be getting it on track 3/21 at VIR and Mike and I will both be at VIR 4/5-6 so I'll have a report back on how it performs on track after that.
I'll finally be getting it on track 3/21 at VIR and Mike and I will both be at VIR 4/5-6 so I'll have a report back on how it performs on track after that.
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Yes, you could get a base Z06 then buy the suspension and brakes. Then you would be missing the aero and tires out of the Z06 package. You can buy the aero package from us and then get the cup tires if you so desire. Then the only difference is the spring rates between the FE6 and FE7 suspension which you could change by turning this into a coil-over system.
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Yes. DSC Sport says it's a huge difference in ride quality and handling with just the controller. I'll be trying that first on my car, then installing the shocks.
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MacManInfi (08-20-2016)
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Would be ideal to see the laptimes from the same driver on a stock car with track alignment/controller only/controller and shocks.
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Wait, what?? Are you saying by installing this controller I can firm up the MR suspension even more that what it currently is? Or less in the rear and more in the front?