Pilot Sport Cup 2 and Rain
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Pilot Sport Cup 2 and Rain
Just got my Z07 and was wondering if I should avoid driving in rain at all cost. It is usually dry during the morning when I go to work but it is common to ge thundershowers during the afternoon.
Do you think it is ok to drive in the rain, using weather mode. If so, how risky do you think it is? TIA
**just found a few more threads about this topic, looks like it's about 50/50 on the responses**
Anyone have their tires changed out and have damage to the ceramics? If so, how was that handled by the dealer/installer? TIA
Do you think it is ok to drive in the rain, using weather mode. If so, how risky do you think it is? TIA
**just found a few more threads about this topic, looks like it's about 50/50 on the responses**
Anyone have their tires changed out and have damage to the ceramics? If so, how was that handled by the dealer/installer? TIA
Last edited by optionray; 08-09-2016 at 07:33 PM. Reason: found some existing threads
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Just slow down. The risk comes with speed.
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The risk is low. They will grip in rain as long as you remember the throttle isn't an on/off switch. Most people who complain about the tires on any Vette not having enough grip on dry or wet surfaces don't know how to use the go pedal very well. Just remember be smooooth with all throttle, brake and steering inputs. Cars don't like sudden changes and will let you know sometimes brutally when you insist on doing something wrong.
I purchased my Z07 at a dealership 167 miles from home in November. Temps were in the mid 40s and it was raining hard for the complete trip home. I was able to maintain 65 to 75 miles per hour except where the trucks had seriously grooved the lanes on I40. The water was puddling in the grooves and that is where I had to slow down to 65. Had the car in cruise and weather mode all the way. The cruise never cut out which is what is programmed to do if a single wheel hydroplanes. First day at the track the tires had to run 2 20 minute sessions without any problem. I used track wet mode.
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I purchased my Z07 at a dealership 167 miles from home in November. Temps were in the mid 40s and it was raining hard for the complete trip home. I was able to maintain 65 to 75 miles per hour except where the trucks had seriously grooved the lanes on I40. The water was puddling in the grooves and that is where I had to slow down to 65. Had the car in cruise and weather mode all the way. The cruise never cut out which is what is programmed to do if a single wheel hydroplanes. First day at the track the tires had to run 2 20 minute sessions without any problem. I used track wet mode.
Bill
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I have driven in the rain with the Cup2s and had no issues, no hydroplaning or spinning uncontrollably. You have to use your head and know that you are driving on a nearly slick tire and you should be okay. That being said, if you can avoid driving in the wet I would certainly do so because why take the chance unnecessarily.
Regarding the brakes, do you absolutely trust the guy pulling your wheels? What if he accidentally chips a corner of the rotor and decides not to tell anyone? I pull my own wheels and take them to the shop so I can just drop them off and not worry about some dummy in a hurry damaging a rotor and not telling me, or anything else happening to my car while not on my watch. Makes me sleep better but I am sure there are many on here who have no issue letting the young guy at America's/Discount sling their wheels on and off.
Regarding the brakes, do you absolutely trust the guy pulling your wheels? What if he accidentally chips a corner of the rotor and decides not to tell anyone? I pull my own wheels and take them to the shop so I can just drop them off and not worry about some dummy in a hurry damaging a rotor and not telling me, or anything else happening to my car while not on my watch. Makes me sleep better but I am sure there are many on here who have no issue letting the young guy at America's/Discount sling their wheels on and off.
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Melting Slicks
Just got my Z07 and was wondering if I should avoid driving in rain at all cost. It is usually dry during the morning when I go to work but it is common to ge thundershowers during the afternoon.
Do you think it is ok to drive in the rain, using weather mode. If so, how risky do you think it is? TIA
**just found a few more threads about this topic, looks like it's about 50/50 on the responses**
Anyone have their tires changed out and have damage to the ceramics? If so, how was that handled by the dealer/installer? TIA
Do you think it is ok to drive in the rain, using weather mode. If so, how risky do you think it is? TIA
**just found a few more threads about this topic, looks like it's about 50/50 on the responses**
Anyone have their tires changed out and have damage to the ceramics? If so, how was that handled by the dealer/installer? TIA
And use these to help change the wheels:
http://www.reverselogic.us/lug-bolt-guides.html
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I use the extended versions, they work great for the rear.
http://www.reverselogic.us/shop.html...tegory=4643105
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Last edited by Steve Garrett; 08-09-2016 at 10:21 PM. Reason: No need to re-quote the previous post, especially if you're the next person posting.
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Be very careful in heavy rain, and especially in standing water.
And use these to help change the wheels:
http://www.reverselogic.us/lug-bolt-guides.html
And use these to help change the wheels:
http://www.reverselogic.us/lug-bolt-guides.html
I use the extended versions, they work great for the rear.
http://www.reverselogic.us/shop.html...tegory=4643105
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Last edited by Steve Garrett; 08-09-2016 at 10:22 PM. Reason: Merged Posts-please use the Multi-Quote button (the middle icon) in the lower right hand corner of each post.
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It's all in the driver, speed, and having at least a medium level of common sense. Oh, and in wet mode too. To me, the benefits of dry weather traction out ways the wet which is why I kept the Cups on unlike others who have stayed or changed to the SS. Btw, I'm at 6k with a sh$t load of off the line rips and still have at least another 5k in them....A8
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I will keep recommending people buy the Michelin SS non-runflat.
Easy the best tire on the road. Plus they are 1450.00 a set and better than the stock MPSS. They come with a full thread and rate as the best tire by the TIRE rack.
Only catch which is not a catch is they correct size to use is 325 rear and 275. They look great and are great in rain as well as the best summer street tire.
Easy the best tire on the road. Plus they are 1450.00 a set and better than the stock MPSS. They come with a full thread and rate as the best tire by the TIRE rack.
Only catch which is not a catch is they correct size to use is 325 rear and 275. They look great and are great in rain as well as the best summer street tire.
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I know someone that wrecked a 458 Speciale with the Cup 2's on damp roads driving VERY cautiously.
If you can afford a Z06, you can afford a set of MPSS .. that's the way I look it. Why risk it?
If you can afford a Z06, you can afford a set of MPSS .. that's the way I look it. Why risk it?
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I've got 7900 miles on my cup 2's w/M7, I've only once had issues with hydroplaning during a bad storm, just had to slow down and get out of the grooves. Never tracked, drive aggressive and only get some chirping when cold or below freezing which TN winters are pretty mild anyway.
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I finally swapped from my OEM Cup2s to the PSS and was pretty surprised how much less grip the tire has on every day roads. The traction control activates much more frequently in places where it never did before. For example, I could take an interstate ramp at 65 mph (recommended 50) and the car will flash the traction control light now and reduce throttle input in areas this did not occur with the Cup2s. I did autocross and run the Charlotte Motor Speedway infield with the Super Sports and as a track tire they are still pretty impressive.
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I'd get rid of them. Sold mine quick and replaced with MPSS. Cups scared the bajeezus out of me in the rain. But, then again, just my opinion and I'd honestly just ignore what I say anyways.
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I forgot what fun it is to have a pick up with power again.
Love the GMC!
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Just last Friday while my wife and I were driving to dinner-in a moderate rain. She asked me how I like my new tires. I told her "I don't know that some guys are saying about them being too slick in the rain. These are fine." Then, less than 2 minutes later (I kid you not) we hit standing water (not in the gas, just cruisin') and out comes the back end! Scary situation for sure. I guess I'll watch the roads better from now on...then go back to Pilot Super Sports when they wear out.
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