Trailers are just like cars, mods require more mods. Pictures
#1
Le Mans Master
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Trailers are just like cars, mods require more mods. Pictures
EDIT: Updated pictures in POST !8 with new supports!
Forum members Rednels and TorontoC6 were correct in their observations.
Last year I upgraded my Trailer to heavier capacity axles and went from 15"to 16" wheels. As a result it raised the trailer making the rear door a steeper incline when loading/unloading my cars. When I had trouble loading my C5 I knew loading the Beast would be impossible without 15 pieces of wood.
I had a riser built and put on 4" bumpers. I also scrapped the single fold out ramp I had -- then had separate 2' wide ramps built and made 18" longer.
The transition piece was flattened out to make a smooth pull into the trailer between the door and the beaver tail.
I wasn't interested in jacking up the front of the trailer looking for hills to load/unload.
The pics don't really illustrate how high the trailer sits now. The end result came out great leaving me a gradual incline.
I added a pull out step as well.
Mike
Forum members Rednels and TorontoC6 were correct in their observations.
Last year I upgraded my Trailer to heavier capacity axles and went from 15"to 16" wheels. As a result it raised the trailer making the rear door a steeper incline when loading/unloading my cars. When I had trouble loading my C5 I knew loading the Beast would be impossible without 15 pieces of wood.
I had a riser built and put on 4" bumpers. I also scrapped the single fold out ramp I had -- then had separate 2' wide ramps built and made 18" longer.
The transition piece was flattened out to make a smooth pull into the trailer between the door and the beaver tail.
I wasn't interested in jacking up the front of the trailer looking for hills to load/unload.
The pics don't really illustrate how high the trailer sits now. The end result came out great leaving me a gradual incline.
I added a pull out step as well.
Mike
Last edited by Short-Throw; 04-26-2012 at 06:02 PM.
#2
That is exactly what I have been wanting to do.
Your setup looks great.
Question, is that hinge for the folding ramps strong enough to hold the weight of the car? I was worried that by putting the riser with bumpers on the door that when the ramps were left "floating" on nothing but the hinge that it wouldn't be strong enough.
Your setup looks great.
Question, is that hinge for the folding ramps strong enough to hold the weight of the car? I was worried that by putting the riser with bumpers on the door that when the ramps were left "floating" on nothing but the hinge that it wouldn't be strong enough.
#3
Le Mans Master
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That is exactly what I have been wanting to do.
Your setup looks great.
Question, is that hinge for the folding ramps strong enough to hold the weight of the car? I was worried that by putting the riser with bumpers on the door that when the ramps were left "floating" on nothing but the hinge that it wouldn't be strong enough.
Your setup looks great.
Question, is that hinge for the folding ramps strong enough to hold the weight of the car? I was worried that by putting the riser with bumpers on the door that when the ramps were left "floating" on nothing but the hinge that it wouldn't be strong enough.
I can try to get better detailed pictures for you as this was my camera phone. The hinges are very strong. The actual hinge has plenty of thicker material on both sides of it that offer support when opened up. If you look at the 5th pic posted with the ramps folded up, you can see that when the ramps are unfolded, the hinge itself never really bears the weight.
#5
Thanks Mike,
I would love to see some better pics because I just don't see how the hinge isn't taking that load. Im probably just being stupid and missing it.
But man that looks good and is exactly what I thought of in my head. Im tired of toting around ramps and pieces of wood. Its a PITA.
I would love to see some better pics because I just don't see how the hinge isn't taking that load. Im probably just being stupid and missing it.
But man that looks good and is exactly what I thought of in my head. Im tired of toting around ramps and pieces of wood. Its a PITA.
#7
Racer
Thanks Mike,
I would love to see some better pics because I just don't see how the hinge isn't taking that load. Im probably just being stupid and missing it.
But man that looks good and is exactly what I thought of in my head. Im tired of toting around ramps and pieces of wood. Its a PITA.
I would love to see some better pics because I just don't see how the hinge isn't taking that load. Im probably just being stupid and missing it.
But man that looks good and is exactly what I thought of in my head. Im tired of toting around ramps and pieces of wood. Its a PITA.
#8
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Thanks Mike,
I would love to see some better pics because I just don't see how the hinge isn't taking that load. Im probably just being stupid and missing it.
But man that looks good and is exactly what I thought of in my head. Im tired of toting around ramps and pieces of wood. Its a PITA.
I would love to see some better pics because I just don't see how the hinge isn't taking that load. Im probably just being stupid and missing it.
But man that looks good and is exactly what I thought of in my head. Im tired of toting around ramps and pieces of wood. Its a PITA.
Nice job on the trailer mods but based on the pictures I would have to agree that the hinges are going to take load. When your front tires are on the first ramps, a fair portion of the weight from the front of the car will supported by the hinges. The front of the ramps touch the ground but the back appear only to be supported by the hinges.
Guys,
This setup is exactly what I've been running for years. In fact the old one piece extension ramp I removed was 1.5 times heavier than these two separate ramps and was supported by the same hinge you see here.
I guess the pics don't really illustrate it. The extension pieces actually have material that rest on the unfolded rear door, and it's that material that's bearing the weight.
#9
Le Mans Master
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Here are some pics of the old setup which worked flawlessly until the trailer was raised. Those here who have seen the trailer at various event know how sturdy it is. You can see in these pics the extension piece appeared to have no support as well but wasn't the case.
Anyway I just thought I'd show a setup that does work for higher trailers and/or low clearance cars.
Anyway I just thought I'd show a setup that does work for higher trailers and/or low clearance cars.
#13
Le Mans Master
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I don't know parts vs labor but that portion of my bill was a little over $300.
#14
Le Mans Master
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#15
Le Mans Master
Un O, I think you are right. I am having a tire rack being put into my trailer now!
I gave up trying to get the perfect ramp and just bought a couple of 2 X 12 and just throw them down. However, mine does not look ar nice as yours.
Jim
I gave up trying to get the perfect ramp and just bought a couple of 2 X 12 and just throw them down. However, mine does not look ar nice as yours.
Jim
#16
Melting Slicks
Looks good Mike, very similar long low angle as mine. My goal was to have one straight line from the beavertail all the way to the ground. This setup worked very well last time I towed the car, but it may require some planks now with the diffuser and race splitter on the car.
#18
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
That is exactly what I have been wanting to do.
Your setup looks great.
Question, is that hinge for the folding ramps strong enough to hold the weight of the car? I was worried that by putting the riser with bumpers on the door that when the ramps were left "floating" on nothing but the hinge that it wouldn't be strong enough.
Your setup looks great.
Question, is that hinge for the folding ramps strong enough to hold the weight of the car? I was worried that by putting the riser with bumpers on the door that when the ramps were left "floating" on nothing but the hinge that it wouldn't be strong enough.
Thanks Mike,
I would love to see some better pics because I just don't see how the hinge isn't taking that load. Im probably just being stupid and missing it.
But man that looks good and is exactly what I thought of in my head. Im tired of toting around ramps and pieces of wood. Its a PITA.
I would love to see some better pics because I just don't see how the hinge isn't taking that load. Im probably just being stupid and missing it.
But man that looks good and is exactly what I thought of in my head. Im tired of toting around ramps and pieces of wood. Its a PITA.
Nice job on the trailer mods but based on the pictures I would have to agree that the hinges are going to take load. When your front tires are on the first ramps, a fair portion of the weight from the front of the car will supported by the hinges. The front of the ramps touch the ground but the back appear only to be supported by the hinges.
Thanks for the kind words and for being spot on!
The ramps held up for the Miata no problem, but both vettes stressed the rivets too much. The tunnel bridge that runs the length of the ramps underneath are holding up fine.
My previous single extension piece had more support when it was unfolded , these two single ramps did not and you both correctly identified the weak link.
You can see in the pics below the rivets were replaced by sawed-off screws and the single ramps now have very sturdy supports that remove all the stress from the hinge, as it should have been initially.
It's one solid setup now.
Mike