Have opportunity to get a Hellcat at MSRP, should I get it or wait for Z06 under MSRP
11-17-2014, 10:33 PM
#41
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Funny, the wife says the same thing....she actually just said why not just keep the ZR1 and buy the Hellcat. If I had known that was an option, I wouldn't have posted. My casual sales pitch to her was I want a car we can all(us and our two girls) go on road trips in; we have a 68 Camaro, but its way too nice to take on longer trips. We only take it to local car shows and thats about it.
There you go man your wife just answered your question for you and solved your problem.
You probably know I have daily driven (all winters included) my First Edition (2008 Challenger SRT8 Hemi and it is a GREAT car that has been nothing but turn key reliable 4 years and 22,000 miles later. My 2009 limited edition Viper VOI coupe is a complete animal and also bullet proof reliable. In a couple of years I would like to trade in my 08 Challenger for a Hellcat and I would drive that year round also (with snow tires like I do with my 08 Chally). Its a $60,000 car that's fast as heck, and the most bad azz modern muscle car currently made. You will LOVE the hellcat and keeping your sweet C6 ZR1 along with your 1968 Camaro is a win, win.
Our supercar and muscle car stable is going to look real similar if you get the Hellcat as I just picked up a 1967 Camaro with a a 565 ci Dart Big Block making 780 HP on motor and over 1000 HP with the twin shot of N20 in the trunk.
The car is a radical show and go machine I love it!!Get the Hellcat and Keep the C6 ZR1 and you will be a happy camper. I know you are a drag racer and the Hellcat (especially with the auto tranny) is going to be a high 10 second machine all day long on drag radials and was made to drag race, all with its bumper to bumper warranty, and ability to drive across the country on vacation with your entire family (do it bro)!
Last edited by Mopar Jimmy; 11-18-2014 at 12:14 AM.
11-17-2014, 11:12 PM
#42
I don't think they'll limit Hellcat production and doubt a $60K+ non-viper will hold value. If I were Dodge I would sell as many as I could; they don't make money by selling less. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hellcat Charger ends up depreciating faster than the Challenger. That being said, every Hellcat review is positive. For non-trackers, the Z06 is way too much race car. Yes, 850HP... I mean 7007HP is also too much but your getting it for bragging, etc, not actual tracking.
11-18-2014, 12:27 AM
#43
First time in my life...I am a mustang fan. Major improvement. I like the side fender vent better than the ZO6 side fender vent. Not that the ZO6 side vent is bad, but the big slab of black plastic doesn't do justice to one of the most iconic design elements of the corvette...and the base vette vent is worse. However, I still much prefer the ZO6 over this new mustang, but I would buy this GT350 before I buy the base vette...and I cannot believe I just said that!
I owned a dodge product for a year or so. A Challenger SRT to be exact. After all the random little issues I won't again. I can't imagine how anyone could be satisfied with that boat just because they threw another 230 hp at it. I can only assume people buying in to the hype haven't driven that platform before. That or they think straight line acceleration is all that matters (because that's all that car will have).
Funny, the wife says the same thing....she actually just said why not just keep the ZR1 and buy the Hellcat. If I had known that was an option, I wouldn't have posted. My casual sales pitch to her was I want a car we can all(us and our two girls) go on road trips in; we have a 68 Camaro, but its way too nice to take on longer trips. We only take it to local car shows and thats about it.
With an early winter coming in for who knows how long you have time to decide without being pushed
The new flat crank GT350 announced today looks really nice. Personally I would give up a fair amount of FI power in exchange for a good NA motor that is supposed to rev to 8000 and make well over 500 HP.
More info should be available at its LA show launch next week
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/11/17/f...ficial-photos/
The new flat crank GT350 announced today looks really nice. Personally I would give up a fair amount of FI power in exchange for a good NA motor that is supposed to rev to 8000 and make well over 500 HP.
More info should be available at its LA show launch next week
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/11/17/f...ficial-photos/
11-18-2014, 12:56 AM
#44
If you have to ask then no need to even try to convince/explain it to you.
11-18-2014, 12:59 AM
#45
100%. I don't get why guys troll in sections that they have no interest in?? I don't like a lot of things but don't go to their forums and start talking crap!
11-18-2014, 01:06 AM
#46
Scraping the splitter.
S.
11-18-2014, 02:05 AM
#49
Drifting
I was under the impression that he's geared up to get one or the other pretty soon. That was why I put it that way. I also put no stock in that first year build nonsense. Where do people get that from anyways? Life too short and warranties are plenty.
11-18-2014, 08:55 AM
#51
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Pete,
There you go man your wife just answered your question for you and solved your problem.
You probably know I have daily driven (all winters included) my First Edition (2008 Challenger SRT8 Hemi and it is a GREAT car that has been nothing but turn key reliable 4 years and 22,000 miles later. My 2009 limited edition Viper VOI coupe is a complete animal and also bullet proof reliable. In a couple of years I would like to trade in my 08 Challenger for a Hellcat and I would drive that year round also (with snow tires like I do with my 08 Chally). Its a $60,000 car that's fast as heck, and the most bad azz modern muscle car currently made. You will LOVE the hellcat and keeping your sweet C6 ZR1 along with your 1968 Camaro is a win, win.
Our supercar and muscle car stable is going to look real similar if you get the Hellcat as I just picked up a 1967 Camaro with a a 565 ci Dart Big Block making 780 HP on motor and over 1000 HP with the twin shot of N20 in the trunk. The car is a radical show and go machine I love it!!
Get the Hellcat and Keep the C6 ZR1 and you will be a happy camper. I know you are a drag racer and the Hellcat (especially with the auto tranny) is going to be a high 10 second machine all day long on drag radials and was made to drag race, all with its bumper to bumper warranty, and ability to drive across the country on vacation with your entire family (do it bro)!
There you go man your wife just answered your question for you and solved your problem.
You probably know I have daily driven (all winters included) my First Edition (2008 Challenger SRT8 Hemi and it is a GREAT car that has been nothing but turn key reliable 4 years and 22,000 miles later. My 2009 limited edition Viper VOI coupe is a complete animal and also bullet proof reliable. In a couple of years I would like to trade in my 08 Challenger for a Hellcat and I would drive that year round also (with snow tires like I do with my 08 Chally). Its a $60,000 car that's fast as heck, and the most bad azz modern muscle car currently made. You will LOVE the hellcat and keeping your sweet C6 ZR1 along with your 1968 Camaro is a win, win.
Our supercar and muscle car stable is going to look real similar if you get the Hellcat as I just picked up a 1967 Camaro with a a 565 ci Dart Big Block making 780 HP on motor and over 1000 HP with the twin shot of N20 in the trunk.
The car is a radical show and go machine I love it!!Get the Hellcat and Keep the C6 ZR1 and you will be a happy camper. I know you are a drag racer and the Hellcat (especially with the auto tranny) is going to be a high 10 second machine all day long on drag radials and was made to drag race, all with its bumper to bumper warranty, and ability to drive across the country on vacation with your entire family (do it bro)!
You know me, I'm a straight-line quarter mile lover, so the track comparison really doesn't impact my decision making. I just never drive the ZR1 because I can only drive one kid at a time, so I can't even pick them up or drop them off at school in the ZR1. I just think it would be fun to pack up the family and head up to our place in Lake Geneva and do a few burnouts along the way
Have a local Chevy dealer hot to sell me their remaining allocation due today on a Z06, which if I bought, I will trade the ZR1. Going to be a tough decision, but I'm leaning towards the Hellcat. To all the guys saying it's apples to oranges....I am not saying the two are equal or on par with one another, just considering a change of pace and both cars are Super in their own ways.
11-18-2014, 09:39 AM
#52
Jimmy,
You know me, I'm a straight-line quarter mile lover, so the track comparison really doesn't impact my decision making. I just never drive the ZR1 because I can only drive one kid at a time, so I can't even pick them up or drop them off at school in the ZR1. I just think it would be fun to pack up the family and head up to our place in Lake Geneva and do a few burnouts along the way Have a local Chevy dealer hot to sell me their remaining allocation due today on a Z06, which if I bought, I will trade the ZR1. Going to be a tough decision, but I'm leaning towards the Hellcat.
To all the guys saying it's apples to oranges....I am not saying the two are equal or on par with one another, just considering a change of pace and both cars are Super in their own ways.
You know me, I'm a straight-line quarter mile lover, so the track comparison really doesn't impact my decision making. I just never drive the ZR1 because I can only drive one kid at a time, so I can't even pick them up or drop them off at school in the ZR1. I just think it would be fun to pack up the family and head up to our place in Lake Geneva and do a few burnouts along the way
Have a local Chevy dealer hot to sell me their remaining allocation due today on a Z06, which if I bought, I will trade the ZR1. Going to be a tough decision, but I'm leaning towards the Hellcat. To all the guys saying it's apples to oranges....I am not saying the two are equal or on par with one another, just considering a change of pace and both cars are Super in their own ways.
Nothing wrong with that bud it's all about what's good for you and family...besides with the Hellcat you can pack in the kids and wife and still give the Z06 fits in a straight line run....
11-18-2014, 12:44 PM
#53
Jimmy,
You know me, I'm a straight-line quarter mile lover, so the track comparison really doesn't impact my decision making. I just never drive the ZR1 because I can only drive one kid at a time, so I can't even pick them up or drop them off at school in the ZR1. I just think it would be fun to pack up the family and head up to our place in Lake Geneva and do a few burnouts along the way Have a local Chevy dealer hot to sell me their remaining allocation due today on a Z06, which if I bought, I will trade the ZR1. Going to be a tough decision, but I'm leaning towards the Hellcat.
To all the guys saying it's apples to oranges....I am not saying the two are equal or on par with one another, just considering a change of pace and both cars are Super in their own ways.
You know me, I'm a straight-line quarter mile lover, so the track comparison really doesn't impact my decision making. I just never drive the ZR1 because I can only drive one kid at a time, so I can't even pick them up or drop them off at school in the ZR1. I just think it would be fun to pack up the family and head up to our place in Lake Geneva and do a few burnouts along the way
Have a local Chevy dealer hot to sell me their remaining allocation due today on a Z06, which if I bought, I will trade the ZR1. Going to be a tough decision, but I'm leaning towards the Hellcat. To all the guys saying it's apples to oranges....I am not saying the two are equal or on par with one another, just considering a change of pace and both cars are Super in their own ways.
11-18-2014, 12:54 PM
#54
I'm going to have to assume you are trolling and nothing else. Feel free to prove me wrong by providing evidence of any real track testing with that car. The skidpad and figure 8 testing done by motortrend don't support your claim at all. I haven't seen or been able to find any actual lap times by the rather porky car.
11-18-2014, 02:46 PM
#55
Yeah, no. I can only assume you mean the motor trend comparison which did not include a single track session. The only thing the have is their figure 8, where the dodge lost by an embarrassing .7 seconds (a ton of time on the 20-25 second figure 8). Amusingly, the last GT500 beats the dodge on the same figure 8 by .5 seconds.
I'm going to have to assume you are trolling and nothing else. Feel free to prove me wrong by providing evidence of any real track testing with that car. The skidpad and figure 8 testing done by motortrend don't support your claim at all. I haven't seen or been able to find any actual lap times by the rather porky car.
I'm going to have to assume you are trolling and nothing else. Feel free to prove me wrong by providing evidence of any real track testing with that car. The skidpad and figure 8 testing done by motortrend don't support your claim at all. I haven't seen or been able to find any actual lap times by the rather porky car.
11-18-2014, 03:15 PM
#56
So, in other words, you won't provide a reputable source (or any source for that matter), and we're supposed to trust you despite the only instrumented tests so far showing your claims are false?
Suuuuure. Ok.
Suuuuure. Ok.
11-18-2014, 04:09 PM
#57
Scraping the splitter.
Originally Posted by Speed News
Is the Hellcat the next great HPDE car? Probably not. If you get one, take it to the track once just for kicks. The car exhibited a good bit of understeer thanks to lots of liquid in the supercharger's proprietary cooling system forward of the radiator, and it's 4,400-plus pounds make their presence known in the corners. The only thing that makes the car feel light is the accelerator pedal.
S.
11-18-2014, 04:58 PM
#59
Melting Slicks
Funny, the wife says the same thing....she actually just said why not just keep the ZR1 and buy the Hellcat. If I had known that was an option, I wouldn't have posted. My casual sales pitch to her was I want a car we can all(us and our two girls) go on road trips in; we have a 68 Camaro, but its way too nice to take on longer trips. We only take it to local car shows and thats about it.
11-18-2014, 05:10 PM
#60
Le Mans Master
Jimmy,
You know me, I'm a straight-line quarter mile lover, so the track comparison really doesn't impact my decision making. I just never drive the ZR1 because I can only drive one kid at a time, so I can't even pick them up or drop them off at school in the ZR1. I just think it would be fun to pack up the family and head up to our place in Lake Geneva and do a few burnouts along the way Have a local Chevy dealer hot to sell me their remaining allocation due today on a Z06, which if I bought, I will trade the ZR1. Going to be a tough decision, but I'm leaning towards the Hellcat.
To all the guys saying it's apples to oranges....I am not saying the two are equal or on par with one another, just considering a change of pace and both cars are Super in their own ways.
You know me, I'm a straight-line quarter mile lover, so the track comparison really doesn't impact my decision making. I just never drive the ZR1 because I can only drive one kid at a time, so I can't even pick them up or drop them off at school in the ZR1. I just think it would be fun to pack up the family and head up to our place in Lake Geneva and do a few burnouts along the way
Have a local Chevy dealer hot to sell me their remaining allocation due today on a Z06, which if I bought, I will trade the ZR1. Going to be a tough decision, but I'm leaning towards the Hellcat. To all the guys saying it's apples to oranges....I am not saying the two are equal or on par with one another, just considering a change of pace and both cars are Super in their own ways.