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Old 01-29-2015, 12:33 PM
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Default Charger Hellcat Tested, Out Accelerates ZR1

Now i'm well aware that in the real world the ZR1 is most definitely a faster straight line car.

However, in the car and driver instrumented test world. Here are the results:

Charger: ZR1:

0-60 3.4 3.4

0-100 7.2 7.6

0-150 15.8 16.4

Most people on this forum seemed to be very concerned with roll racing so i limited the post to these stats.

For more:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...at-test-review

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http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...rt-hellcat.pdf

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-z06-zr1-3.pdf

ZR1 is the bottom chart.

Here's a video of the Charger hitting 207.9 mph with the wind and 202.x against the wind.


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Posting 0-150 mph wont necessarily give you the same roll race outcome (70-14X). Tranny downshift time, aero efficiency and diff gearing will skew the results.

BTW The Hellcat has issues putting power down.

More BTW: I'm a fan of both.
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Whether the ZR1 is quicker in real life or not is a moot point IMHO

The fact that a ZR1 with a competent driver needs to worry about a giant four door FACTORY sedan is a win for the Charger. Very impressive.
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Whether the ZR1 is quicker in real life or not is a moot point IMHO

The fact that a ZR1 with a competent driver needs to worry about a giant four door FACTORY sedan is a win for the Charger. Very impressive.
+1

I never thought i would see a day where a 4600lbs stock sedan would be competitive with chevy's fastest ever vette in a straight line.
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So what you're saying is that GM designed the ZR1 to win drag strip contests? Is that correct?

Uh, no, there have always been fast sedans out there. However none that I know of ever beat a Z06 or ZR1 on a race track - the environment in which the Corvette was designed to excel.

Believe me, if GM wanted to make a drag-strip/straight line-specific car that could beat every OEM car in the world, it could. Would that make financial sense in any way or form? Of course not. Most folks who are serious about spending $70,000+ on a sedan will be looking at high-end sedans that are far more status-satisfying than a Fiat-Chrysler vehicle. By the same token, very few Corvette Z06 buyers will cross-shop with a Charger Hellcat. So whether a huge, straight-line sedan's acceleration numbers mean anything to an oener of a car that would be used on a track, is minimal.
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Originally Posted by furiousox
Whether the ZR1 is quicker in real life or not is a moot point IMHO

The fact that a ZR1 with a competent driver needs to worry about a giant four door FACTORY sedan is a win for the Charger. Very impressive.
That's what everyone was saying about the hellcat on how great it is blah blah blah. Track tested, proven yea I get it.... Moral of the story is its getting smacked around left and right with plenty of footage to prove it. Dodge products like their "tests" are once again over rated and hold no weight just like their resale value. This is coming from an STR8 300 owner at one point as well. Great car but hang on when you go to resell it lol. Jay
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Originally Posted by Dave68
So what you're saying is that GM designed the ZR1 to win drag strip contests? Is that correct?

Uh, no, there have always been fast sedans out there. However none that I know of ever beat a Z06 or ZR1 on a race track - the environment in which the Corvette was designed to excel.

Believe me, if GM wanted to make a drag-strip/straight line-specific car that could beat every OEM car in the world, it could. Would that make financial sense in any way or form? Of course not. Most folks who are serious about spending $70,000+ on a sedan will be looking at high-end sedans that are far more status-satisfying than a Fiat-Chrysler vehicle. By the same token, very few Corvette Z06 buyers will cross-shop with a Charger Hellcat. So whether a huge, straight-line sedan's acceleration numbers mean anything to an oener of a car that would be used on a track, is minimal.
It baffles me as to how you came to that conclusion.

I wasn't "trying" to say anything.

I SAID that in C & D 's testing the charger out accelerated the ZR1. And it did.

End of story.

Nothing to do with the track, the looks, the competition (serious buyers) choose to buy.

And definitely nothing to do with your pride.

I wasn't attempting to post a comprehensive comparison of both cars.

It's as simple as what i posted.

The insecurity on this forum amazes me, you appear to feel a loyalty to this machine in a way that directly affects your sense of self-worth. The fact that my post made you feel the need to defend the ZR1 and belittle the charger is amusing.


And for the record, there has never been a sedan that can accelerate faster than the ZR1 to 150..

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Originally Posted by 96mogt
This is coming from an STR8 300 owner at one point as well. Great car but hang on when you go to resell it lol. Jay
That's just about every car unless it's a hypercar. Which is why it makes no sense to pay MSRP or over on a depreciating item. When you drive off the lot you just lost 10 percent going from new to used car.
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Originally Posted by 96mogt
That's what everyone was saying about the hellcat on how great it is blah blah blah. Track tested, proven yea I get it.... Moral of the story is its getting smacked around left and right with plenty of footage to prove it. Dodge products like their "tests" are once again over rated and hold no weight just like their resale value. This is coming from an STR8 300 owner at one point as well. Great car but hang on when you go to resell it lol. Jay
LOL......Like Vettes have great resale value?

I actually think the Hellcats are overachieving....

I never expected them to pull Vipers and Z06's just due to the mass of the cars.
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Originally Posted by Hemi Dave
LOL......Like Vettes have great resale value?

I actually think the Hellcats are overachieving....

I never expected them to pull Vipers and Z06's just due to the mass of the cars.
Pulling Vipers? Again I have yet to see one pull a well driven Viper unless the Viper missed a shift. Nor have I seen them trap as high as Vipers same day same track. They are usually 3mph slower at best.
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Originally Posted by FLATOUTVIPER
Pulling Vipers? Again I have yet to see one pull a well driven Viper unless the Viper missed a shift. Nor have I seen them trap as high as Vipers same day same track. They are usually 3mph slower at best.
I have yet to see a Viper pull a Hellcat in a roll race......so one of you guys needs to race that Texas Hellcat and make it happen.

He will race modded cars too so give him a call.
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Originally Posted by FLATOUTVIPER
Pulling Vipers? Again I have yet to see one pull a well driven Viper unless the Viper missed a shift. Nor have I seen them trap as high as Vipers same day same track. They are usually 3mph slower at best.
No one knows. I think the viper is faster.

In C & D's testing the viper is slower as well.

You claim Hellcat's are 3 mph slower than a viper in the 1/4, the fact that a 4600lbs sedan is only 3 mph slower is silly.
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Originally Posted by ajjaro
No one knows. I think the viper is faster.

In C & D's testing the viper is slower as well.

You claim Hellcat's are 3 mph slower than a viper in the 1/4, the fact that a 4600lbs sedan is only 3 mph slower is silly.
What about the fact where many could have both the Viper and the Hellcat. Who's faster then?
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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND
What about the fact where many could have both the Viper and the Hellcat. Who's faster then?
The depletion rate of the bank account?





Did i win?








Having the combo as a sports car and daily is something i plan to do. But i haven't yet decided between the viper and the Z06
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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND
What about the fact where many could have both the Viper and the Hellcat. Who's faster then?
Now you are talkin
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Originally Posted by Hemi Dave
Now you are talkin
These right here are the golden days of performance. Not the 60s or 70s. Right now!

Amazing.
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Originally Posted by Hemi Dave
LOL......Like Vettes have great resale value?

I actually think the Hellcats are overachieving....

I never expected them to pull Vipers and Z06's just due to the mass of the cars.
A heck of a lot better than an SRT8 charger and 300. I've never seen them pull on a viper, now I know your reaching lol.
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A heck of a lot better than an SRT8 charger and 300. I've never seen them pull on a viper, now I know your reaching lol.
Maybe in your own mind it's a "heck of a lot better"

Take comfort in your mind.....it will soothe you from reality.....

Of course you didn't see a Hellcat Charger pull a Viper....
They are not out yet......Cant see what's not there...and you say I am reaching...
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Originally Posted by Hemi Dave
Maybe in your own mind it's a "heck of a lot better"

Take comfort in your mind.....it will soothe you from reality.....

Of course you didn't see a Hellcat Charger pull a Viper....
They are not out yet......Cant see what's not there...and you say I am reaching...
i stand corrected bud, I read your comment wrong lol. Resale still sucks and I'm sticking to it lol

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Originally Posted by 96mogt
i stand corrected bud, I read your comment wrong lol. Resale still sucks and I'm sticking to it lol
LOL.... No problem friend
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