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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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I have noticed that just about everyone that has put in a larger than 1.5 DIN headunit and cuts the bezel has moved the AC controls down to the ashtray and put some sort of filler between the middle.

I would like to move the AC to be right under my screen .. then use the ashtray area for switches and such.

Are there any drawbacks to this ..other than having to cut and move the other bar? Looking at the car, it appears that I would have to trim a support brace a little for the depth of the AC control (in the regular config, the control sits between the two support bars).

I am just wondering if I am missing something before I start cutting.
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I intend to post a detailed "how to" when I get finished, but to answer your question; I did almost the same thing you're thinking of doing. I didn't like the idea of moving my HVAC controls all the way down into the ashtray area either and I didn't want to end up retexturing my whole console, so here's a few shots of what I did. I used the bezel from the AVIC-D1 as a template. As you can see, you should have plenty of room for switches.

They should be fairly self explanitory, but feel free to comment or question my motives...




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I intend to post a detailed "how to" when I get finished, but to answer your question; I did almost the same thing you're thinking of doing. I didn't like the idea of moving my HVAC controls all the way down into the ashtray area either and I didn't want to end up retexturing my whole console, so here's a few shots of what I did. I used the bezel from the AVIC-D1 as a template. As you can see, you should have plenty of room for switches.

They should be fairly self explanitory, but feel free to comment or question my motives...




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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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I intend to post a detailed "how to" when I get finished, but to answer your question; I did almost the same thing you're thinking of doing. I didn't like the idea of moving my HVAC controls all the way down into the ashtray area either and I didn't want to end up retexturing my whole console, so here's a few shots of what I did. I used the bezel from the AVIC-D1 as a template. As you can see, you should have plenty of room for switches.

They should be fairly self explanitory, but feel free to comment or question my motives...




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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rhubarb74roadster
I have noticed that just about everyone that has put in a larger than 1.5 DIN headunit and cuts the bezel has moved the AC controls down to the ashtray and put some sort of filler between the middle.

I would like to move the AC to be right under my screen .. then use the ashtray area for switches and such.

Are there any drawbacks to this ..other than having to cut and move the other bar? Looking at the car, it appears that I would have to trim a support brace a little for the depth of the AC control (in the regular config, the control sits between the two support bars).

I am just wondering if I am missing something before I start cutting.
I intend to post a detailed "how to" when I get finished, but to answer your question; I did almost the same thing you're thinking of doing. I didn't like the idea of moving my HVAC controls all the way down into the ashtray area either and I didn't want to end up retexturing my whole console, so here's a few shots of what I did. I used the bezel from the AVIC-D1 as a template. As you can see, you should have plenty of room for switches.

They should be fairly self explanitory, but feel free to comment or question my motives...




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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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there is a how to in the c5 faq :-)

use the abs sludge method (not bondo) though, you'll get better results.

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there is a how to in the c5 *** :-)

use the abs sludge method (not bondo) though, you'll get better results.
I did use the ABS sludge method. The only bondo you see was used to hide some slight imperfections before painting.
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Originally Posted by LV_2_XLR8
I did use the ABS sludge method. The only bondo you see was used to hide some slight imperfections before painting.
yup...i can tell (nice job too) was just letting him know because in the faq i mentioned the bondo

hmm, i just noticed i should go and edit the g to a q. woops!
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Excellent job, judging by the pics... did you have to modify the ashtray door, or did it still operate just as it did factory?
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Excellent job, judging by the pics... did you have to modify the ashtray door, or did it still operate just as it did factory?

the door isn't there anymore.
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LV_2_XLR8,

Awesome work. I did not think of grabbing the entire piece (both bars) and moving it down. I was trying to move one bar at a time and it is just not lining up right.

Looks like I am ordering a new bezel and Xenarc case for take 2.
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LV_2_XLR8,

Awesome work. I did not think of grabbing the entire piece (both bars) and moving it down. I was trying to move one bar at a time and it is just not lining up right.

Looks like I am ordering a new bezel and Xenarc case for take 2.

how isn't it lining up correctly? is it not wide enough or to wide? i wouldnt order a new one just yet. take some pics and maybe we can help you through this.
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I will take some pics when I get back from the turkey day stuffing (me, not the bird)

It is not looking too bad. I removed the top bar and tacked in the Xenarc bezel. Then filled in the sides with Plastic epoxy. Then glued the bar to the bottom of the bezel (covering the buttons). Then cut new notches in the sides of the trim and filled in the space with the epoxy.

The bar is a little high on one side, but I can sand that down. My biggest fear is that I will have a lot of hi and low spots and would need to use Bondo to fill them .. and that would crack.

Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by rhubarb74roadster
My biggest fear is that I will have a lot of hi and low spots and would need to use Bondo to fill them .. and that would crack.

Any ideas?
As Scott said, try to use as little bondo as possible. Ideally, just to fill very shallow inconsistencies. Get some ABS adhesive at lowes or Home Depot and use that to fill most of the low areas. It's very sandable once it sets up, and is very stable, since it's made of the same material as the rest of the dash. My photo is deceiving but believe me, the bondo is extremely thin in those areas where you see it.

We'll look forward to the photos. Glad you managed to salvage the radio surround.
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LV_2_XLR8,

The ABS that you used .. was it the Oatey stuff in the can (in the plumbing section), the stuff in the plunger/sqeeze tube (over in the glue section with the epoxy), or the homemade ABS/MEK sludge?

When you put the ABS in, did you do it from the front .. with the back taped up or from the back?

Did you need the SEM clear just to protect your artwork at the bottom, or is it needed to match the factory texture?

Thanks
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LV_2_XLR8,

The ABS that you used .. was it the Oatey stuff in the can (in the plumbing section), the stuff in the plunger/sqeeze tube (over in the glue section with the epoxy), or the homemade ABS/MEK sludge?

When you put the ABS in, did you do it from the front .. with the back taped up or from the back?

Did you need the SEM clear just to protect your artwork at the bottom, or is it needed to match the factory texture?

Thanks
Yes, it was the Oatley stuff in the can. When you open it, cut the dauber off so it will be easier to get a smaller brush inside without making a mess. The stuff is pretty thick and easy to use. I did everything from the front side. It sets up very quickly, so it doesn't have the propensity to run or drip.

The clear coat is necessary to duplicate the factory gloss level, as the texture coating is completely flat with absolutely no sheen to it at all. I decided to apply it over the decals to seal them and also remove the gloss from them too, so they would match the factory finish better.
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Any update on the 'how to' guide? I got my new bezel and am ready to start cutting
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Originally Posted by rhubarb74roadster
Any update on the 'how to' guide? I got my new bezel and am ready to start cutting

check the c5 faq, there is a how to there. instead of using 2part epoxy use the abs sludge... but everything else is the same
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I'm sort of following LV_2_XLR8's lead on this too while incorporating waymirec's idea for location of the boost and fuel pressure gauges I'm also using a Xenarc touch screen monitor for my Car PC system.

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