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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Yeah...I read only the first 3 pages and was surprised how much people started slamming other people. I mean seriously, slam the car or love the car all you want...that's personal opinion. But don't go calling someone a name or worse because you don't like their opinion.

I couldn't believe the one guy who then started ranting about EG's car...calling it nothing special, just run of the mill like all other "custom" C5's. I haven't been here all that long but I don't know of anyone else running an 18" in their C5.

Oh well...I think some people just like to yell.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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you rock man
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Originally Posted by camaro_zach
wow the interior most of all pisses me off..i cant see whats going on...or where anything is...
exactly my thoughts.. they had more interior shots that were clearer, i might be able to nod my head in interest, but its sooooo busy looking, i don't understand what I am seeing. I can't even see what the graphics on the car look like because every single shot has the door and hatch open
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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A little too overdone IMHO.
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Looks like a bunch of unorganized grabastic pieces of amphibian ****.....
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Thanks to all who like the car. This forum is so useless. This car was built to do one thing, that is win shows, and to promote our shop. and, win shows it does. Over and over again. every show we go to with the car, it wins either best in show or we get 3 or 4 trophies. Best paint , best interior, best in car entertainment, ect.....
When we go to these shows, hundreds of people love the car and stand in line to take pictures with this car.
I have been told over and over again that this is the coolest car thay have ever seen. With a whole bunch of celebs on that list. That is what this car was built for. Not to be driven around to meet in some parking lot, with a bunch of other corvettes and to be compared to each other.
That is boring .
This car started out as a stock corvette with wheels ( thats really being unique ) and this is to the guy who says fake magaizine cover ! very real.
The car has gotten two covers. With 6 page features, and 4 features, a ton of random pics in a dozen magizines. ect... It has been in two music videos, and featured on a hand full of news features on tv. Right now the car is a feature in performance auto and sound november issue, on news-stands now, check it out.
Don't hate, Appreciate.
I can understand how a die hard corvette guy feels about seenig this car. With the destroying of it's attitude. I can see that, but to me building something that has such an impact is worth much more than some lame nearly stock c5 corvette.
Hey all i can say is all that if you like it, enjoy! To all that dont like it, you are custom to your own opinion. If you have trash to say, all I can say is when your car can beat mine, then i'll listen, but considering that these guys who are talking trash would be jumping up and down if there was a little tiny pick of there 'vette in a magazine. but there is not.
Like i said if you could do better bring it. dont talk. talk is cheap. y'all are like a bunch of little school girls.
The next car im going to destroy is a viper. so dont worry, ill have a whole new bunch of haters typing away insted of building something.
Less talking more creating....love ed

P.S.- Signed posters of the Vette........ $5
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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haha. love the end of your post.

I'm glad you are happy with it and regardless of what I think, you are getting free publicity.

You have to admit it...that cover looks really fake [what gave it away was a) no drop shadow on text over an image and b) no bar code]. After you posted i checked it out and it is a real magazine...an online magazine...but still a magazine.

I have no problem with going wild on a corvette, i think the execution of it was poor though. I did like the paint and the trunk area, but the interior for me seemed cramped and bloated. I would like to see an extreme installation that was very clean and sleek, but that is my personal taste, probably not yours...so more power to you. It seemed like you wanted to have the playstation (i think its a playstation) in that area so badly that you sacrificed ergonomics. Another thing you'll learn about from any graphic designer is the use of negative space. you don't need to have something in every open spot. Having sections where it's clean and empty can add to the areas where you have something to show off. What you have done isn't unique though, its been done ad nauseam. To get people to really say 'wow' at the viper, i suggest you guys think of something that hasn't been done before..at least not in a car. take for instance, foliatec. they have some pretty far out there cars but all of the mods tie in together and they have some pretty neet fabrication. (half cut doors and things like that)

when you have something that is really awe inspiring make sure the rest of the car showcases that. your car does have a 'wow' factor to it... but it's more in just the amount of stuff that is done to it, not the quality of the design.

i have no right to give you and advice but maybe you'll take some of my input and put it towards making a truly awe inspiring car.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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one other suggestion. when brainstorming for the viper focus on the things that make you say "wow" not "that's cool"


oh... edit: this forum is not useless. I've learned a lot on here and have met some great people.

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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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well you are right you should be doing something with your life rather than bad mouthing other peoples work.
the magizine is not just a internet magizine it is real you can open and touch it.
first of all you have to see the car in person to get the feel and how the car flows and that is the first thing people say when thay see it. and as far as not being unique you show me a corvette that looks like mine !
you cant.
i have had other top vette show car guys come up to me just to tell me that i kicked there *** but niceley and it is all friendly.
but i think you should post some pics of your vette or even better bring it to a show and well park you right next to mine or who ever the new owner is. but dont be upset when your car becomes a bench for the spectators.
[lets see your car bring some pics !!!!!!!!!! and then tell me what you did your self beside putting the little tree on your mirror.
and i dont really think the forum is useless people like you who make it a meeting place for people who cant compeat to talk.
im sure most on here are good people with some cool vettes but you got way to upset about my car and that is what is sad so again let see what you did with your own two hands to your car.
and if you send a pic of a bolted on exhaust im gonna fall of my chair.
but all in all there is a place for people like you... imagine what the world would be like with out insucure HATERS


ps if you ever build something that i wont laugh at let me know. ill stay a member just waiting.
hell ill even set up a peoples choice booth that ill pay for and well go head to heAD.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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You post makes me laugh. None of us pretend we have "show cars" or that we are creating show cars. We just have regular cars that we drive and enjoy. The modifications we make please us and no one else.

However, just because you spend a lot of time money and effort on anything does not make it "show quality". I have seen a lot of "show only" cars - and they were much better executed than your car. Just my opinion. If you want to flame away on an opinion, go ahead.

And good luck with your attitude. You'll need it

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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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You post makes me laugh. None of us pretend we have "show cars" or that we are creating show cars. We just have regular cars that we drive and enjoy. The modifications we make please us and no one else.

However, just because you spend a lot of time money and effort on anything does not make it "show quality". I have seen a lot of "show only" cars - and they were much better executed than your car. Just my opinion. If you want to flame away on an opinion, go ahead.

And good luck with your attitude. You'll need it
well i know you had to come to the rescue of your buddie.
reguler cars are fine i have a few of those also.
i just dont understand why people have the time to spend bad mouthing something that thay say thay dont care about. have you seen the season 10 episode of south park about world of warcraft if not you should catch it.
and as far as sinking money most of it was labor and i have had some of the world best installers come up to me to tell me how much thay loved my car. i know it is not for everyone . but to be honest i dont care what some nobody thinks about it. again i cant for the life of me figure out why this is even a topic. why dont you guys put up some pics of your rides i would like to see them not jokeing i would like to see them.and as far as how my car was built all the judges and spectators disagree. and that is why it was built for people to enjoy not to hate it if i saw your car at a show even if it was weak i would still be nice.
i would not log on to some computer and talk trash it just seems childish
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Yeah, it's a shame that people have to modify a car to look that awful to win shows.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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we do post pics of our installs. almost all of us here dont compete, so we try to go for function over flashy. Your reply is just childish and you could have easily come on here and simply stated what you were going for in your design. But you didnt. End of that. No one denied the amount of work that went into it. No one denied the uniqeness(*sp) of it. It just doenst look good to us. Take it as a critizism and go from there. Your getting way too defensive about it.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DPG
we do post pics of our installs. almost all of us here dont compete, so we try to go for function over flashy. Your reply is just childish and you could have easily come on here and simply stated what you were going for in your design. But you didnt. End of that. No one denied the amount of work that went into it. No one denied the uniqeness(*sp) of it. It just doenst look good to us. Take it as a critizism and go from there. Your getting way too defensive about it.
I agree with the functionality statement. Id say the majority of people on here either customize their cars to race, or generally for speed, looks tend to come in as second. The drag forum proves that.


On the note of the car in question, personally I think its a unique design, peeling away the metal to reveal a living inside for instance. But it is so busy I dont even know what the hell Im looking at half the time. It obviously took a lot of time, skill, and effort, and all that I can appreciate. However that doesnt mean I have to like the fact that the interior dash looks like some hybrid of star-trek, speed racer, and alien.

But you obviously have a good idea of what you're doing, noone doubts that, the car is just a bit hard to look at sometimes. I look forward to seeing what you do with the viper actually, but stick to customizing cars, and let someone else do the typing. Your typos and misspellings drive me nuts.
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Originally Posted by c5vettguy
well you are right you should be doing something with your life rather than bad mouthing other peoples work.
the magizine is not just a internet magizine it is real you can open and touch it.
first of all you have to see the car in person to get the feel and how the car flows and that is the first thing people say when thay see it. and as far as not being unique you show me a corvette that looks like mine !
you missed the point. i'm saying the things you've done aren't unique. most of the things that you've done are a variation of something that has been done in the past. That's what would make your car truly unique. get my drift? for instance. paint job was nice, but i've seen it done a lot. even a guy at the gym has a tatoo that is based on the same theme. and it doesn't really tie into the thing you're tying to showcase...the car stereo. that's just some constructive crit. from a person that is in the design field.

Originally Posted by c5vettguy
but i think you should post some pics of your vette or even better bring it to a show and well park you right next to mine or who ever the new owner is. but dont be upset when your car becomes a bench for the spectators.
[lets see your car bring some pics !!!!!!!!!! and then tell me what you did your self beside putting the little tree on your mirror.
there are plenty of places where my you can see pictures of my car, even cnet showcased my car. but this isn't a pissing contest. if you want to see pictures of my install then go to the top of this forum and you'll see a sticky that says 'show off our ride' you can see me old system in there. Nothing to outrageous, but i'm not in the show circuit nor is this my profession. Though i don't have a little tree on my mirror, i did do the entire install myself EXCEPT for the texture matching of my modified bezel. I left that to people that know what they are doing on that front. though i am going to try to mimic it on my current install..we'll see how that goes.

As far as your challenge. That is like me telling you to put up your cg work against mine and see who's gets the most attention. That is my profession and I will put money on the fact that any of my work will be so far out of your league that a challenge would be sophomoric at best.

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and i dont really think the forum is useless people like you who make it a meeting place for people who cant compeat to talk.
im sure most on here are good people with some cool vettes but you got way to upset about my car and that is what is sad so again let see what you did with your own two hands to your car.
most of us aren't into competition, our passions don't revolve around that. I am not upset in the least, just doing the usual internet antics, we are a bunch of 'buddy's; if you will. and we joke around, bust b@lls and help each other out. Thats it.

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and if you send a pic of a bolted on exhaust im gonna fall of my chair.
but all in all there is a place for people like you... imagine what the world would be like with out insucure HATERS.
not insecure at all. i modified my car how i wanted. i did it for myself, not to generate business (not that there is anything wrong with that) or to have other people pat me on the back for a job well done...thought that feels good when they do. Like I said, there are a few things that i liked with your car. but it fails as a whole imho.

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ps if you ever build something that i wont laugh at let me know. ill stay a member just waiting.
hell ill even set up a peoples choice booth that ill pay for and well go head to heAD.
sounds good.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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you missed the point. i'm saying the things you've done aren't unique. most of the things that you've done are a variation of something that has been done in the past. That's what would make your car truly unique. get my drift? for instance. paint job was nice, but i've seen it done a lot. even a guy at the gym has a tatoo that is based on the same theme. and it doesn't really tie into the thing you're tying to showcase...the car stereo. that's just some constructive crit. from a person that is in the design field.





there are plenty of places where my you can see pictures of my car, even cnet showcased my car. but this isn't a pissing contest. if you want to see pictures of my install then go to the top of this forum and you'll see a sticky that says 'show off our ride' you can see me old system in there. Nothing to outrageous, but i'm not in the show circuit nor is this my profession. Though i don't have a little tree on my mirror, i did do the entire install myself EXCEPT for the texture matching of my modified bezel. I left that to people that know what they are doing on that front. though i am going to try to mimic it on my current install..we'll see how that goes.

As far as your challenge. That is like me telling you to put up your cg work against mine and see who's gets the most attention. That is my profession and I will put money on the fact that any of my work will be so far out of your league that a challenge would be sophomoric at best.


most of us aren't into competition, our passions don't revolve around that. I am not upset in the least, just doing the usual internet antics, we are a bunch of 'buddy's; if you will. and we joke around, bust b@lls and help each other out. Thats it.


not insecure at all. i modified my car how i wanted. i did it for myself, not to generate business (not that there is anything wrong with that) or to have other people pat me on the back for a job well done...thought that feels good when they do. Like I said, there are a few things that i liked with your car. but it fails as a whole imho.


sounds good.
well this has been fun but i really dont have the time to keep doing this i think i got my point across like i said everyone can like what thay like or hate what you hate. to be honest im so used to everyone loving the car and bugging out when thay see it. this is a change of pace.

like i said if anyone on here thinks thay have what it takes to beat this car give it a try with some friendley comp.
and as far as speed we have a mid 8 second mustang that has also been on the cover of magizines so i guess we have it covered. but i dont reccomend messing with the mustang because that would really hurt the corvette guys ego. we dont even really race cars anymore we try to get the street bikes. and we also have a civic that is pretty sneaky
to be honest i love all cars that are impressive civic to lambo. but i like to see things that are different. as far as attitude if any of you met me you would think i was the nicest guy in the world. and i dont knock anyone else and i always try to help people insted of being nasty. and when it comes to typos i have to type fast because if my guys here at the shop saw me doing this thay would break my *****. but check the new issue of performance auto and sound and maybe these pics will change your mind. really good night shots

really i mean this good luck to all with there cars and try to enjoy them what ever you drive ....peace
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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well nice to have you, and good luck on the viper. hopefully you'll note some of the criticism about this car and make that viper truly bad a$$.

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c5vettguy....I have seen your car in person and I had my vette on display at the same show yours was at. Daytona Spring Break Nationals...2 years ago I believe. Your car was in the left side corner of the building against a wall. I would not have seen had not several people in the industry came up to tell me about the "POS Corvette" inside. FYI I have been in the industry for 16 years and have had countless vehicles in mags, sponsored, on display for manufactures, and built specifically for a manfacture. Unlike the countless celebs who liked your car..I know what I am talking about. Celebs know squat about cars. I have worked on plenty of their cars too.

From a professionalls point of view I will tell you what is wrong with your car. The details suck. The hatch looks fantastic in the center but when it hits the sides it is horrible. The hole you have to reach into to shift the car. All the custom dash work you did just to leave the stock ebrake and traction control panel. You can no longer stow the top. The dash board is huge...what is with the venter of the dash up top? Win shows? Did you win Daytona? Did you win the trifecta? How about IASCA or USAC finals?

Now I understand exactly why you built that car and I am positive it has worked well for you. That is excellent...you achived your goal of building something to get your shop recognized. At the end of the day how much you money you made is what really counts. But if you want respect from Corvette owners or from people in the industry you are going to have to do better. Every car has a soul..an essence...a reason for being. A true custom builder is going to recognize that and build from that. What you did to the vette really belongs in a mini van or a big dually. The people on this forum are Corvette lovers and though they all do not share the same tastes they share the essence of a Corvette. I hope you understand that. If you want to really build an impressive car build one that does not take away from the spirit of the vehicle but adds to it. Build one that every single detail is better then if the factory made it. Then you will get the respect from your peers. Until then...good job on turning your shop into a more profitable business for you and yours. I do not agree with what you did with the car but I do understand and I do agree with promoting your business however you can.
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c5vettguy....I have seen your car in person and I had my vette on display at the same show yours was at. Daytona Spring Break Nationals...2 years ago I believe. Your car was in the left side corner of the building against a wall. I would not have seen had not several people in the industry came up to tell me about the "POS Corvette" inside. FYI I have been in the industry for 16 years and have had countless vehicles in mags, sponsored, on display for manufactures, and built specifically for a manfacture. Unlike the countless celebs who liked your car..I know what I am talking about. Celebs know squat about cars. I have worked on plenty of their cars too.

From a professionalls point of view I will tell you what is wrong with your car. The details suck. The hatch looks fantastic in the center but when it hits the sides it is horrible. The hole you have to reach into to shift the car. All the custom dash work you did just to leave the stock ebrake and traction control panel. You can no longer stow the top. The dash board is huge...what is with the venter of the dash up top? Win shows? Did you win Daytona? Did you win the trifecta? How about IASCA or USAC finals?

Now I understand exactly why you built that car and I am positive it has worked well for you. That is excellent...you achived your goal of building something to get your shop recognized. At the end of the day how much you money you made is what really counts. But if you want respect from Corvette owners or from people in the industry you are going to have to do better. Every car has a soul..an essence...a reason for being. A true custom builder is going to recognize that and build from that. What you did to the vette really belongs in a mini van or a big dually. The people on this forum are Corvette lovers and though they all do not share the same tastes they share the essence of a Corvette. I hope you understand that. If you want to really build an impressive car build one that does not take away from the spirit of the vehicle but adds to it. Build one that every single detail is better then if the factory made it. Then you will get the respect from your peers. Until then...good job on turning your shop into a more profitable business for you and yours. I do not agree with what you did with the car but I do understand and I do agree with promoting your business however you can.
well i do remember your car if you are talking about the deep redish corvette and if im not mistaken you had some famaly with you at the show well thay came by to see my car like 5 or six times and when you came by you were telling me that you never thought someone could build a sicker vette than what you had and i remember you saying i have to hand it to you. and i do remember you being pretty cool about it and i thought you were cool as a matter of fact you wanted me to bring my vett outside with yours to take pictures of them together. i think the car was built with audiobahn purplrish red.
if this is not that guy the only other vette i remember was the silver one with the motorization in the trunk. what car was yours. i think thay were both very nice. no bad mouthing here could i go up to these cars and find things i dont like ...sure but why do that. and when i was at that show i had a bunch of people talking crap about the other vetts but i really dont like to hear that and once people know that is not a way to buddie up with me thay usually stop talking bs. that people way of attaching them selves with you. i had on of the young guys come up to me and tell me that the amp rack in the purpleish car looked stupid and looked like it fell through the roof and landed in your trunk and i got pissed at him and i told him we are not down here to compeat or pick people cars apart i like those shows because of the people enjoying what i have built. and be honest if you were there you can say there was not always a huge groupe of people around my vette
and ps it was not even done yet at that time.
i did not motorize anything at all.
but i am curious which vette was yours please post a pick.
just remember even the best can be picked apart but why you have guys that break there *** building something from nothing why look for problems i know my vett is not 100 percent perfect is yours...
but the car has done 100 time more for me and everywhere i go with it people go crazy i get pulled over by the cops all the time just to check it out if i go to dinner in the vette i come outside and there is 50 people standing waiting for me to show them.
last week me and my friends went to get some *** food and the whole resturant came outside for like half and hour everyone chefs waiters owners customers ect. that is why i love the car notto make everyone happy.
we just did an episode of overhaulin with foose we did the nomad the one with leno and we did a nice subtle amp rack and flushed the radio in the dash very stelth and it matched the car great. so it dependes what we have to do for each different car...i guess i just would rather look at the good insted of looking at the bad but plese post a pic of your vette im curious which one it is
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we did the system in the streettrenz booth car if i could figure out how to get a pic on here i would
i wonder what you guys think of that car. probully the same reaction...
and i also just did a 1966 big block corvette. but if i put up some pics of that i would prob have you guys marching in protest...lol

im really not an nasty person and no some cocky jerk off.
and i guess i did take some offence to people giving there opinion in such a negative way. this really the first big job that we did and the car was built like 2.5 years ago.
so i would say for my first big car i think its pretty good. its strange how our minds work i get thousands of complaments on the car from all sorts of people. and i get a hand full of people that dont like it and i felt a need to know why.
i spoke with a good friend about this type of bashing on car forums and this guy is world famious and his responce was

welcome to the big time baby!

thank you for your input and hopefully my next big project will impress and that is not going to be the viper the viper will be cool and pretty fast it going to get a set of twins before i touch it. and it will be my everyday ride but we are actually building a car from nothing and even if you hate my style of building you still will be blown away. but please put up a pic of the vett that was at sbn i would love to know who im talking to
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