JL Audio XR650 CSi---Help
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JL Audio XR650 CSi---Help
I just got my new speakers today. When I was unpacking them I dropped one of them and bent the rim of the basket. 
Can this be straightened out and it still be okay. It also looks like the surround is lifting just a hair at the edge. In the pic it is still in the package.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Can this be straightened out and it still be okay. It also looks like the surround is lifting just a hair at the edge. In the pic it is still in the package. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Man, I really hate that this happened this way. I cannot tell you how bummed I am about it. I was thinking maybe some hot glue or something like that.
What do they normally glue the surrounds down with? Anyone got any ideas?
What do they normally glue the surrounds down with? Anyone got any ideas?
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I have been searching some of the speaker repair websites and I have seen a product called Power Poxy, Stick on Contact, All Purpose Adhesive in one of the kits. I am going to go look for some tomorrow at Lowes and see what I can come up with unless someone comes up with something better.
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I was looking at some of the super glues tonight and they are not compatible with some types of rubber and polypropylene was one of them. I guess I need to look a little further than Lowes.
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If the frame is bent, the surround is the least of your problems. A speaker is essentially an electric motor. This motor will be moving at a rate as high as 13K cycles per second( and beyond). The surround is the centering force for the entire moving mass. The space in the gap between the motor and the voice coil is extremely tight.
If the frame is bent, you change the whole balance of things (like the geometry of the spider and surround). If the voice coil starts banging into things inside the gap, the speaker will not work very well and will soon fail.
The surround is mounted to the frame with a glue-bead that is carefully placed by machine. It's important that the glue that is used will not damage the surround (like many consumer epoxy glues will) and there is just enough so that it will not affect the way the material stretches. If the surround becomes more stiff at one point, the moving mass will tend to pull towards it causing a rocking motion. You want your speaker to behave like a piston, not a paint-shaker!
IMHO, you should just replace the driver and call it good.
If the frame is bent, you change the whole balance of things (like the geometry of the spider and surround). If the voice coil starts banging into things inside the gap, the speaker will not work very well and will soon fail.
The surround is mounted to the frame with a glue-bead that is carefully placed by machine. It's important that the glue that is used will not damage the surround (like many consumer epoxy glues will) and there is just enough so that it will not affect the way the material stretches. If the surround becomes more stiff at one point, the moving mass will tend to pull towards it causing a rocking motion. You want your speaker to behave like a piston, not a paint-shaker!
IMHO, you should just replace the driver and call it good.
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Exactly how high did you drop it from???
You also could run into problems with air leaks, if it doesn't seal to your mounting space well. Might use some weatherstripping to ensure it seals tightly.
I'd call JL, though, see what they recommend. Who knows, they might tell you to send it back for a repair.
You also could run into problems with air leaks, if it doesn't seal to your mounting space well. Might use some weatherstripping to ensure it seals tightly.
I'd call JL, though, see what they recommend. Who knows, they might tell you to send it back for a repair.
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Originally Posted by cmb13
Exactly how high did you drop it from???
You also could run into problems with air leaks, if it doesn't seal to your mounting space well. Might use some weatherstripping to ensure it seals tightly.
I'd call JL, though, see what they recommend. Who knows, they might tell you to send it back for a repair.
You also could run into problems with air leaks, if it doesn't seal to your mounting space well. Might use some weatherstripping to ensure it seals tightly.
I'd call JL, though, see what they recommend. Who knows, they might tell you to send it back for a repair.
The frame is bent just a little. I have not used the speakers yet. I am going to shoot them an email tonight and see what JL says.
BTW, thanks for the compliment on the car. It is in Corvette Enthusiast January 2007 on the shelf right now.
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Originally Posted by cmb13
Are you kidding? You've got my dream car. All I want is a chrome bumper convertible shark. Just need a way to justify it to myself.
The vette is just a toy. I have had it for about 7 years now. It was not nearly in the shape it is now. I have done a winter project on it just about every winter up until about 2 years ago. Now I just get in it, hit the key, drop the top and cruise. There are still some things I would like to do to it but, for now, I just enjoy cruising in it.
I drove my friends 2006 Yellow A6 Vert about 3 weeks ago. Now that is a nice car. Very similar to yours. I could not believe how quiet and smooth the car was.
